any body know what this Arc Lantern is??

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  1. Bruce Kuda

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    Hi-- New here-- my Last hope-- I have been trying to identify this burner head for 15 years-- no luck ~~ some suggestions were a Nautical signal lamp, I got the head and had no idea what it was-- finally a few months I figured it was vapor pressure arc lamp/lantern~~~~~ I just had the head so I fabricated a font out of a couple orphan quick lites-- got some mica for the shade--- and use the generator off a Coleman 425 stove. I have had it fired and it burns very nicely ( torch light ) I used Aladdin mantles first try but they allowed a lot of gassing off at the top so I am trying some larger mantles I just got---- any help identifying this would be greatly appreciated ~~~ I have nick named it my Jules Vern 20,00leagues under the sea lantern

    Bruce in Wisconsin at Camp Wounded Dog

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    Interesting! Could you post a few close-up pictures of the burners and working parts with the covers off?
     
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    I'l lpost a you tube but it has to be approved I guess--the big copper hat is intergrel and does not come off-- but the video will show a lot-- I shot it when I was first trying to figure it out-- at the timeI thought it was some sort of natural gas heater-- but figured ot it a vapor arc
    Maybe you can just cut and paste in you r broweser

     
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    Thank you Jeff-- I did check that and one of the Lamps sure looked like it was in the same family-- and the designation Incandescent Oil Vapor lamp-- sure puts it in the vapor category-- that is going to be the direction of my research-- thank you !!
     
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    Hello Bruce, you are welcome.
     
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    This link shows a lighthouse lamp being lit.

     
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    wow good stuff thanks !!
     
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    G'day @Bruce Kuda , I can't help with information but had to say what a great looking lantern it is. And you have done a marvellous job getting it going. :clap::clap::clap:
    and welcome to CPL.
     
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    thank you-- I am currently doing some modifications-- I removed the old pump pressurizer and installed an "Amish" nipple so I can pressurize with a bicycle pump-- and I added a vintage pressure gauge. the old pump had a slow back pressure leak I could not resolve-- tried all kinds of gaskets to no avail-- I gave up-- I frequently use the Amish nipple-- makes life so much easier~~
    jules vern amish nipple 001.JPG jules vern amish nipple 002.JPG
     
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    I'm still tryinngto find out what my mystery lantern is--- I came across a picture of a Kitson Cluster Burner~~~~ mine looks very much like it--- can any one confirm or refute for me>> thanks in advance


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    *Edit: posts below merged to the original, already exising thread about this lamp.

    okay- one last try to identify this burner head I've been trying to get a positive ID on it for almost 15 years-- got it burning last year-- one fellow in England said it looks like a Kitson IOV cluster burner-- Kitson holds the original patent for vapor lamps-- around 1890 - this pre dates Coleman, If any one can ID this please let me know

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    I can’t identify it, couldn’t even guess ..... but that’s some serious stuff. Looks like it come off of Jules Verne’s Nautilus.
    Cheers
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    I strongly believe it to be a lamp, using pressurized liquid fuel to produce light :whistle:

    A very nice example made by ?????????? with a look of early proof of concept. I like the shape and look of your lamp, although seems strange to have the vapouriser go through the hood where all the heat is, then have the mixing tube go outside and down to cool on the way :-k

    More details may come to light :D Is it time to light and let it shine?
     
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    I read some infos on this a while ago. Can't remember if it was here or at the CCF.
    A few days later it popped up at ebay for a ridiculous price.
    If I find it again I will ad the link.

    Erik

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    Unique Kitson? Nautical Gas Vapor Lantern Buoy? Pier? Lighthouse" Coleman parts | eBay

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    I think it is from Bruce Kuda, he has posted about it since he found the top part ( also has a Youtube channel with it), he adapted the rest to make it functional, it is an interesting piece of equipment and he spent quite some time fabricating and adapting parts to make it work again, I believe someone said it was originally a pier light, but I may be wrong.
     
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    Thanks for sharing this, that’s one intriguing device!
     
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    @Tony Press I have no idea what it is :-k

    I had a look around last time Bruce posted it.
    Kitson is probably about right but only a guess.
    @Bruce Kuda I hope you get your answer sometime.
     
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    thank you-- me too!!
     
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    thank you- very interesting history!!
     
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    I have it posted on ebay-- hoping some one would see it and tell me more about it-- yes the price is ridiculous-- I really dont want to sell it and if some one did offer me the asking price I still dont know if I'd sell it-- there is something extremely satisfying knowing you have something no one else has-- -- but if you really like it and want it- I'll knocK 50 bucks off the price ! :-)
     
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    yes it does light and pretty well but getting it going is like some sacred druid ritual~~~~

     
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