EX4 Tilley ?

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  1. Darryl Durdin

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    Hello fellas, not wanting to get off to a wrong start and damage what i have.
    Dose anyone know if the cock valve unscrews or is soldered. There is a fine seam at the bottom of tje valve but it is not even all the way around.
    The leaver moves the needle, not sure what the other bit is

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    Hello Darryl, I have not seen that type of Tilley control cock before, would it be possible to photograph the bottom of it?
    The pipe with the cap may be a pressure release, but that is just a guess.
     
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    Hi there, what number vapoiser do i need, can some one help me out. And were is the better place to get one. Thanks
     
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    Shown picuture enlarged cock valve

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    Did Tilley make insect grids like this. All the one,s ive seen from tilley,s is the clip on butterfly ones.
    This one looks like the one from my Kayen AP 2 20190310_160438.jpg
     
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    You will need a 169 vapouriser and that control cock appears to be soldered to the tank, perhaps you could strip the paint away so that you can see it clearly.

    As far as I know Tilley did not make a bug guard like that one, the first link below shows an older style of Tilley guard and there is a more modern one and there are several of those shown in Jean's Tilley spares photo which is shown via the second link.

    Early Tilley insect shield.

    Bought ‘a few’ lamps today
     
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    Darryl


    I've picked up that bottom insect shield on both Tilley and Kayen here in Australia, but I think it's Kayen (I'm not certain, though).

    I'm looking at another EX4 (not as old as yours) at the moment. It looks as though my control cock is fitted like yours. I'll have a good look tomorrow and compare notes with you.


    Cheers

    Tony

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    Ok, thank you, i am going to see if the paint shifts, before i do much , looking for vaporiser, seals etc,
     
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    The other thing is just an air release
     
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    I have some pictures of the co k valve 20190311_164634.jpg 20190311_164423.jpg 20190311_164451.jpg
     
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    The control cock is fixed (not screwed) to the tank.

    Tony
     
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    That is an Early EX4 great find even has some original paint =P~ see here ------(Tilley EX4)
    It needs to be in the Gallery when finished.
    I have one of the later version and the pricker control is fixed to the tank.
     
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    I'd have thought it would be better in the gallery now to show 'as found' condition rather than after restoration when information will inevitably have been lost...
     
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    David is absolutely correct.
    It's always better with pictures of unrestored lamps in the gallery than restored ones, should there be a choice between the two.
    If a restored lamp is shown, make sure you also attach several "before pictures".

    Unfortunately it is a common misconception that the gallery is meant to show off shiny and polished pieces.
    It isn't! The full name - "Reference Gallery" - gives a hint; it's there in order to create a sort of photo archive where you can try to find out how a certain lamp should have looked originally, details and all, and thus the best pictures in there of course generally is the ones showing a lamp that hasn't been painted, over polished or fiddled with in any way.
    It may be very scruffy, and it may be incomplete... but it will still be original and may help in showing a specific detail someone is wondering about.
     
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    all good, I will post the rebirth in the gallery when done.
    many thanks
     
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    Or even better, follow the last suggestions; post it now, in all its unrestored glory, before you have done anything with it but perhaps a gentle clean-up if needed.
     
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    Interesting pricker control. I wonder why Tilley experimented with a different style to the XN. It looks to be a single casting - which I would expect to be more costly than the machining (only) required for a XN or GF type.

    Presumably the small lever is pushed down to raise the tab that operates the pricker itself? If so, either it is one piece, with a question on how it was assembled or perhaps there is a flat on the end of the cranked rod engaging in the lifting tab - which could be a bit wobbly. Or maybe it operates as a see-saw in two pieces?

    There must also be a vertical drilling through the meat of the control to release the pressure. All very interesting......
     
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    Or possibly a rack and pinion to raise / lower the cleaning wire ?

    Henry.
     

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