1921/? Guenet & Abbat n° 112 swan neck lamp

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  1. Michel

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    Hi all
    Here is my last restauration project : A model 112 swan neck lamp from Guenet et Abbat (or Louis Compain ?). Production year ? After 1921 because this burner was patented in 1921. This burner is in a 1926 G&A catalogue, after, I don't know ??
    I am not sure who is the owner of the "Succès" brand . I guess this was G&A because all patents are from Guenet et Abbat from 1909 to around 1947.
    second hint : I have never found a patent claimed by Compain (who was also a seller of bicycles and motorcycles in Paris in the 30's)
    Third hint : The "Comptoir Culmen" was the "syndicat des commissionnaires négociants en gros du cycle, de l'aviation, de l'automobile, des sports, 10 rue de Lancry, Paris)
    this can be translated by " commissioners wholesalers trade union "
    My guess is that louis Compain was only a retailer, until the proof of contrary ;-)

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    For this hour, I am fighting with the 101 burner. All spares seems to be present although the needle is a little poor in quality and the needle system completely jammed.
    here is the dismantled burner ; funny puzzle, don't you think ?

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    A fine fettling project!
     
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    Absolutely stunning lamp, gratulation Michel. :D/ With ýour knowledge and experience it will be up running yesterday :lol:
    This must be as rare to find as tears from a seahorse - even for you Michel O:)

    Claus C
     
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    Hi Michel! A nice find :thumbup: and the 101 burner looks almost identical to the burner on my "101 bis" hollow wire lamp [url=http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/3381 .
    I think this burner, though very interesting, is way too complicated to be of good engineering; too many small parts that could get jammed. My Succes 156 parabolic heater has the same disease. At least 70 parts to assemble for a working heater.

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    Yes Claus, very rare, in fact the only one I have ever seen. I could not let go this old lady.

    Conny, Too complicated ! I don't think. This burner is almost the same as my other Succès lamp burner although the opening knob is not exactly at the same place, but it works fine.
    in fact, almost the same lamp although this one have an outdoor burner
    http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/5740

    I think my problem will be the thinness of the needle which is eaten by the rust and therefore is too flexible.
     
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    Very bad weather in Brittanny today : a lot of wind and rain ;-))
    Impossible to go out, so .....
    reassembling the burner in 8 pictures

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    Yesssss, it's still raining tomorrow. I'll take care of the needle's system ;-)
     
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    hum the needle system is reassembled but this old lady is much more ill than I thought.
    While trying to inflate the lamp up to 500 gr, I heard a "pop" and seen the bottom of the fount making a bulge. My Succès was a rocking lamp.
    The bottom is brass made and if this alloy is not attacked by the rust, this is not so strong than iron.
    I had to push back the bottom with a rubber hammer and now I must strengthen the sheet metal, I think with solder and epoxy resin.
     
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    Nightmarish :shock:

    Hope you make it turn out well and the idea sounds solid. :thumbup:

    Claus C
     
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    A little update
    the resin has done its job, the fount no longer swells
    I did a test without glass or sleeve
    the lamp is running for 1 hour without any problem with 4/500 gr pressure
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    I don't want to risk a globe or a tulip right now because the brass screw does not hold correctly in the glass holder. the threads are enlarged. And more, I have only 2 screws.
    The thread is 3/70 in metric. Untraceable !! I will be obliged to redo the screws
     
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    Hello Michel, that's good news! :thumbup:
     
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    little update
    the globe holder is repared and the lamp runs fine with its new green shade and a 500 gr pressure. This green shade is sold as an option in the 1920's.

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    It looks splendid! :thumbup:
     
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    It is beautyfull Michel.
    Thinking on Petromax-, Optimus- or Tilleyshades, then it must be just as difficult to find the shades you find, as the lamps themself.
    Welldone Michel :thumbup:

    Claus C
     
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    What a beautiful lamp Michel and that green shade is to die for!
     
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    Thanks to all, but you must thank Guenet & Abbat, not me :^o
    Yes, this is very difficult to find because those lamps and lampshades have not been produced in great quantity, not as much as Petromax or Optimus anyway.
     
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    Really amazing lamp and fettling..... Congratulations.
     

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