1925/193? lampe foraine Lilor n°4083

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  1. Michel

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    Hi all
    Here is my "lampe foraine" n°4083 from Lilor from 1925 to 193?.

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    I was very puzzled, about this lamp looking at the Liotard/lilor catalogues I own.
    This lamp is not really represented in any of them.
    If you closely observe the pictures, you can see that my lamp have a space between the shade and the donut tank. Conny's lamp have the same shape : here ;
    http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/3220
    In this space, we can see the cleaning system mechanism of the burner (here a "bec STA" or STA burner)
    On the catalogues pages, this is not this lamp which is represented, although, we have a space but it is far more small.

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    I needed to observe closely the texts and I have found this :
    - The lamp already exists in 1915 (Liotard) and 1920/21/22 (Lilor) with a 3/4 liter tank and no needle (only a filter in the jet)
    Could be Paul's lamp here : http://0flo.com/index.php?threads/2911 but there are not enough pictures to be sure.
    - in 1923/24 ; still no needle but a 1 liter donut tank.
    - We must wait for 1925/26's catalogue to see the cleaning needle system.
    The catalogue's picture is the same as in 1915 (and will be the same even in 1930).
    I think the explanation is that they simply have not changed this picture between 1915 and 193?
    This lamp have been produced until in the 30's but I don't know exactly (no more exists in 1937)

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    This lamp needs the donut tank in order to be finished. I had no round globe, so I have used a Mariva glass. It have held one hour and ....Crac ;-((

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  2. Conny C

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    Hi Michel,

    Nice lamp! Agree, often you see catalogue images of lamps for a long period of time; still the same drawing/image even if changes have been made.
    I think the part between the donut tank and reflector was extended a bit at some time, to make room for the cleaning needle control.

    /Conny
     
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    :thumbup: Another beautiful lantern, Michel.

    Best regards

    Tony
     
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    A fine example! :thumbup:
     
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    Ahh yes I was watching that. Nice lamp indeed, especially the condition.
     
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    Gratulation Michel, stunning condition it is in :thumbup: .
    You must have all the Lilor's about now :?: :D/

    Claus C
     
  7. Michel

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    Thanks guys
    Yes, very good condition, no rust and good enamel, no brass stress.

    All Lilor lamps ? hum, still not ;-)
     
  8. Michel

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    This lamp is intended for outdoor
    because "Foraine" comes for fairground
    but I wanted to have a little fun in the spirit of the 30s (houlala;-)
    As the round globe has not endured the trip, I tried it other finery.
    What do you think of that

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  9. Conny C

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    Michel, in all honest.......nooo [-(
     
  10. Claus C

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    Nah Michel [-( , to me this lamp demands simplicity.
    Do you think the shade that followed was original by the way?

    Claus C
     
  11. Michel

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    I know guys ;-)
    Even my wife and daughter don't like this.
    The shades (in fact a shade and a tulip) are originals but not for this lamp
     

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