1930s Lind-O-Lite 330A

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  1. Mackburner

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    This is a 300 cp twin mantle gasoline Instant lighting table lamp. Made by A. J. Lindemann & Hoverson Co., Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA. It has a carbureter valve mounted in the fount which allows air and fuel through to the generator when opened a half turn but when fully opened closes off the air flow and passes fuel only. This example is marked in the base with "07701". I am pretty sure this is a Sears Roebuck catalogue number but as yet we have not seen this lamp in a Sears catalogue. The same model was also sold by Montgomery Ward but their catalogue number for it was 450-C-2703. ::Neil::

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    Is this a rare lamp? Approximate value? I've found one and I'm hesitant at asking price. How available are parts?
    Thanks!
     
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    They turn up once in a while, but they are not exactly common and we do not give valuations here, parts are scarce and that usually means buying several examples to make one working lamp.

    However, it's possible to be lucky and to obtain a complete lamp which just needs fettling.
     
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    The part most often wanted is a generator and all Lind-O-Lite use Coleman generators which are readily available. The rest you can pretty well forget because the lamps were last made in 1936 and parts are non existant. ::Neil::
     
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    Greetings Mackburner,
    Well, with the Wife's blessing, I made up my mind to purchase the Lamp! Sadly, upon arriving at the shop and seeing the Lamp once again, upon further inspection, I noticed a hairline crack in a portion of the lamp, that I'm not sure will effect it's function. I attempted to take a few pics of the Lamp, it's Controls and the crack and it was then, that I realized I had forgotten my phone at home! Foolish mistake, right?

    From the pics of the Lamp that you own, (BTW, the Lamp I'm looking to purchase, is the exact Lamp you've shown) I'll attempt to describe were the crack is and maybe you can tell me if it'll effect it's usage.

    Ok, in your Lamp pic, in the view on the right, if you look at where the Tank meets the Cast "Handle"(I believe it's octagonal), at the very Bottom Flange of the "Handle", which I believe is also octagonal, there is a hairline longitudinal crack, at one of the points of the octagon. Now not knowing if the Fuel runs through this cast portion, or if there's another tube inside this area, that feeds the fuel to the top, I'm not sure if under pressure, this crack will leak?

    I hope my description is accurate. Maybe it would be easier to ask, if there is indeed another tube inside the Handle, which leads from the Tank, to the Upper areas of the Lamp, through which, the pressurized Fuel flows? If so, I'd guess that the crack will not affect the Lamp functionally?

    I'm also wondering about the controls on the Lamp. Can you tell what each Knob, or Cap, or Valves function is? Also, if the Knob, or Cap, or Valve, is supposed to rotate, or be push, or pull? If the movement is rotational, should it be CW, or CCW and if the rotation should be a full 360 degrees, or just 180? I'm trying to determine if the controls are broken, or not. You showed a broken Spindle of the Air/Fuel Valve and questioned if this was an inherent design flaw. I'd like to determine beforehand, if the same Valve is indeed broken. Would it be possible for you to supply a parts blow up, or something similar, so that I could answer my own question, as to the inner tube of the Handle, or not?

    I certainly hope I've explained myself sufficiently, especially without my being able to supply pics of the areas in question and that you can help me via typed conversation, or diagrams? I wish the shop where the Lamp is located was just around the corner, but sadly it's about an hour away, at least.
     
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    Hello,
    Found a Parts Blow-Up (no pun intended) of sorts, in a catalogue in the Lamp Reference Library. I'm worried the crack in the Handle Flange will be a problem now, seeing that there is no tube inside it, to contain pressurized fuel! Your thoughts?
     
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    The handle is made of wood and will come off once you remove the burner unit. There is a brass fuel tube inside the handle which is soldered directly into the top of the tank. A small crack in the handle is not a problem. The lamp will run quite well without a handle.

    OK from the top. Control at bottom of burner with metal wheel is a pricker control only. I think that rotates 360. Control in top shoulder of tank is a carburetor valve which does two jobs, shut off valve and fuel/air mixture control. Full clockwise is closed. Half to one turn open sends mix of fuel and air to the burner. In theory this makes these lamps "Instant Lighting". Full open aticlockwise shuts off the air and sends neat fuel to the burner. Next down is filler cap and lowest is the pump. I guess you might work out what they do.

    The broken fuel/air valve stem I showed is not on this lamp. That arrangement comes on the lamps that do not have a carburettor valve in the tank but do have a fuel/Air valve under the burer. If you study the images of the lamps you will see that the lamps are different so this is one problem you don't need to worry about on your lamp. I have several different Lind-O-Lite table lamps and they are different so you need to be careful to note which one of mine you are looking at.


    ::Neil::
     
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    Thanks Neil! That answers all my questions! Ask the right people here and you'll get the answers to any questions you have! Thanks so much! Now, I've gotta wait and hope that it'll still be there next weekend, when I get a chance to go back to the shop!
     
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    Neil,

    Thanks to your PLC I was able to identify my example of this lamp as the same model as yours. Mine too has the '07701' on the base.

    The difference between your lamp and mine is the shade holders.

    Do you know if your shade holder is correct to your lamp?

    Do you know if they used various shade holders so more than one type would be correct?
     
  10. Mackburner

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    Yes I think it is correct. Came on the lamp anyway and I have the same holder on at least one other L&H lamp. ::Neil::
     

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