249 Coleman made in Australia

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  1. Mantis

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    This 249 was made in Australia under licence of the Canadian factory. You can see the date numbers are stamped above the logo Feb 1953. The country of make does not feature under the logo.
    The globe is by Austramax so am taking it that this was the Australian firm who made it under licence.
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    It's in fine condition and I had not seen that stamping before.
     
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    I wouldn't use the globe as an indication of where it was made (even though I think you are right). The Austramax globe is the same size as the Coleman globe so this could be a later replacement after the original broke.
     
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    The other interesting thing about the 249 is that it seems to use (I don't have one of these to be sure) a unique "fat" generator like the 237 but is shorter and the same dimension over it's entire length.
    These generators are probably hard to come by, but if like the 237, they are easily maintainable (all brass parts). I'm curious if the gas tip is replaceable with one of the correct tip size from a different generator or if the tip is unique also.

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    Research I have undertaken reveals that Austramax did make Coleman 249s under licence. Certainly Austramax lanterns globes are a matching size. Given globes are interchangable, the only way of knowing if a Coleman or Austramax globe was fitted when sold, would be to find an advert from that time.
     
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    This is the first time I have seen an Austramax globe on an Australian Coleman. Most of the ones I have seen, with presumably an original globe, have had an English made Coleman globe.
     
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    Hi NZ,

    I'm going to send you down a different path in your research.

    This article here in an October 1950 issue of The West Australian newspaper seems to suggest that Colton, Palmer & Preston was the licensee for Coleman Canada. CP&P was a large, long established manufacturing company, probably capable of high volume production.

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    Hope this helps,
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    Great information Dan. This is definatley worth investigating further. I had always wondered why Austramax would produce Coleman lamps when they had their own line of product at the same time.
     
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    It never ceases to amaze me that somewhere out there someone hauls out archival information, shedding light on an obscure subject. This is certainly an interesting lead. Perhaps a member out there might have some advertising or catalogue material dating from that time, which might help reveal further info on the manufacturer?
     
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    Did some looking for Australian Coleman and Found post in Classic Camp Stoves topic 25543 Replies from 23-5-12 of interest

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    Coincidently I have one of these stoves, a Bushman 404, the unit uses Shellite and is built in Australia under licence to Coleman. The original cardboard marketing blurb is printed in 1954. Same colour as mentioned green with a gold lid. Even has the original instructions. Let me know if you need and I will take some photo's of the documentation.
     

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