A Tilley PL53 deciding to be different

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  1. ColinG

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    I guess it got bored being normal! I could put a mantle on the air button and be done with it?!!!

    Seriously, I think it needs a bit of work.
     
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    Fine furnishings to go up in flames Colin!

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    :shock:...The last pic looks like it's trying to light the candle for you?
     
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    I know the air buttons are missing their covers, but any suggestions as to why this is occurring?

    Regards Jeremy
     
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    Short answer: The vapour is burning inside the burner...

    There’s something seriously wrong. I will be interested to see what Colin comes up with.

    Cheers

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    Blocked burner outlets I’ll bet.

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    Well, as I have family over, my fettling opportunities have been limited this week, but next week I'll have to find out what on earth is going on. I'm sure I'll get to the bottom of it, but I thought the photo was well worth sharing!

    If only Tilley had seen the potential, the history of lamps and lanterns might have been very different.
     
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    If there is a strong smell of paraffin, then some part or parts of the burner are loose and it can be the mixing tube which is inside the mixing dome.
     
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    I figured it was either the air buttons or a blockage somewhere. I replaced all the seals but didn't make sure the burner was clear!
     
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    That's very odd!

    Presumably it's breathing in through two of the air inlet tubes and out through the third. As John suggests, maybe a blockage in the lower burner area but putting the air intake baffles back on won't hurt as a first step. :whistle:
     
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    Well it's a bit better. I cleaned all the burner tubes out and fitted proper air buttons and it's not doing an impression of a flame thrower now! It's a bit yellow but it might settle down.... possibly not, we'll have to see.

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    Hmmmm the yellow is settling down now and turning blue. I might fit a mantle and see how it goes.
     
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    The clue was nothing, not even a glimmer, appearing at the mantle - or the other air tube inlets either, so significant obstructions in two air tubes and burner flamelet holes.

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    @ColinG , a word to the wise. In THIS post you said,
    Though a paraffin-fuelled Tilley for indoor lighting is a fine thing, firing one known to be ailing on a dining room table isn’t to be recommended!

    Sorry, my Fire & Rescue Service heritage thrust me into saying that, at risk of sounding discourteous.

    John
     
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    It's progressing!:thumbup:
     
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    No worries at all, it's sound advice! I wasn't expecting it to do this and it genunely took me off guard. I'm fairly sure I've fixed it now so I'll hopefully post some money shots, but your point was very well made and absolutely correct! Thanks John.
     
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    I have lost count of how many times I have nearly burnt my workshop to the ground. Perhaps I should find a safer hobby, or remember to testfire outside.
     
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    Fitted a new vaporiser and away she went!

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    Much improved...:clap::clap:
     
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    That's good news!... :thumbup:

    I've heard about some newer Tilley vapourisers that caused similar odd burn-ups, but i think they were more with the shorter vap tube? (606)..:-k
     
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    Yeah, the jet was badly enlarged... probably been used for the last 50 years!
     
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    That's good news!:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    Looking good Colin!
     
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    I'll have to move on to the next fettle now!
     
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    Curious minds are asking, what is your next fettle?
     
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    I have a Tilley table lamp base with a few dents that need dealing with first. I tried the ice trick without success and even made a dollie to push the dent out from the inside but it didn't work. I've bought some Isopon P38 filler specially for the job.
     

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