AL16

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  1. listertrucks

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    AL16 In original condition with most of lighting instruction transfer intact, mounted on track stand.
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    That's a fine item, I have not been able to obtain a stand for my AL-15 yet.

    The stand adds much to the lamp, Jeff.
     
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    AL15 on the stand is an AL16...

    Nice thing to have!
     
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    Thanks David for correction.
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    That is a very nice find. AL 15 is common enough but the stand to make it AL16 is a rare beast. ::Neil::
     
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    The stand would not be difficult for a metal worker to make, if there was one to copy.

    Will anyone take the hint? Jeff.
     
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    Not all AL16s started live as AL15s put on a stand Tilley must have made them as AL16s look at the photo...

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    Kenny
    Unfortunately the transfer on the lamp I have featured is chipped just at model No, so it could be either
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    Well I have one but you ain't getting it to copy. An easy thing to make perhaps but then very good copies will devalue the originals. The age old problem with repro stuff. I don't mind reproductions so long as they are marked as such. Trouble is they don't get marked and in 50 years time some collector will pay big bucks for a repro. ::Neil::
     
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    You do have a point Neil, so if anyone does start to make stands, perhaps the maker's name should be on them.
     
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    Yes this is a difficult area. In one sense I deplore any reproduction because in time it may be difficult or impossible to work out which is which. Trouble is we all use repro glass or mica globes and consider that to be OK. However when it comes to things like repro Tilley glass shades is it right? They look the same and now the real thing is about the same value as a modern repro. So the price of a repro has sort of set the value on an old original. Can't be right surely? Then again I have some repro opal globes for Primus lamps. These were made using the original molds because as I understand it the glass works who were asked to make the reproductions happened to be the original makers and they still had the old molds. So are they repro? Well sort of but sort of not. We also all use modern parts but what is the excuse for making a complete lamp or in this case the stand? At any level that is either intended to decieve or will certainly do so at some point in the future. Better to do without that rare piece until you can find the real thing which then has its rarity value intact.

    I remember well my old friend John Findlay making the parts to construct three Vapalux hand lamps. He intended to mark them with his name and the date but he died before the project was completed. Odd thing about that was I knew he had made nearly all the bits because I had seen them and I was there when we cleared his loft and workshop but I never found the parts which I had intended to destroy. So yes make copies but mark them is the best I can hope for because people will surely make repro bits. If future collectors are not to be deceived then there has to be some way to recognise a copy from the real thing. ::Neil::
     

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