Ca. 1911 AB Aladdin Vesta lamp (Lyrlampa)

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  1. Conny C

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    Hi all,

    This "Vesta" lamp is a rare beast. Made from around 1910 and a couple of years forward of the Swedish company AB (Aktiebolaget) Aladdin, Hall, Sundbyberg /(Stockholm). I only know of a handful examples of this lamp among collectors. The lamp is a combined hanging and/or table lamp, using a harp frame for the hanging position. A kerosene fed lamp, said to give 200 CP light output.

    This Swedish AB Aladdin company started in 1905 and should not be mixed up with the (US
    Aladdin company) "Mantle Lamp Company of America" starting in 1908. In 1913 AB Aladdin lost a patent infringement court case to AB Lux and sold the company to AB Lux.
    AB Aladdin thereafter was a subsidiary company to AB Lux and ended production around 1917.

    This Vesta lamp has that typical Lux type of "ball" burner and also the intricate mechanical system for the cleaning needle. This system on the Vesta lamp is a bit different from the system used on the Lux lamps, although using several "Lux" components.

    This Vesta lamp use the same type of opal shade as on the Lux DH lamp and also Primus 1005/1008.

    A lot of working hours to get this lamp running; fuel control stuck, clogged fuel pick up tube;
    meaning a lot of de-soldering and soldering jobs. Finally got the lamp running. It run a bit rich, yellow and orange strands in the Bunsen flame, probably enlarged jet. Probably more hours for fine tuning the burner to optimal performance, but my patience had gone, so just had her going to get some "money" photo shots.
    A damn nice looking lamp though!

    A big "thanks" to Bo Ryman, who donated parts and gave me support for this restoration.

    /Conny


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    AB Aladdin Vesta lamp 2.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp lit mantle.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp lit.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp parts.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp burner parts.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp cleaning needle mechanism handle ring.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp  fuel valve handle.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp  fuel filler and pump plug.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta manometer.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp burner.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp flame spreader and pre hear cup.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp pre heat cup and cleaning needle.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp cleaning needle mechanism.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp cleaning needle carrier movements.jpg AB Aladdin Vesta lamp mantle.jpg


    ….and before …................................… AB Aladdin Vesta lamp before.jpg


    …..from an AB Aladdin 1911 catalogue ...... AB Aladdin Vesta lamp 1911 catalogue image.jpg
    (courtesy Björn Olde)

    ...and here together with the ....... AB Aladdin Vesta Primus 1008 and Lux DH.jpg
    Lux DH and Primus 1008 lamps
     
  2. Nils Stephenson

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    Very nice Conny. It looks stunning. A lamp I can only dream about.

    So far I have not had any success getting these types of burner to work well. Always too rich. There must be some trick to it. Btw, what type of mantle are you using?
     
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    Thanks Nils,

    Yes I have a couple of lamps with this burner type and as you say --- not optimal performances.
    I think also the flame spreader unit needs calibrating, found some "under burning" in my lighting try!

    I used up several mantles in the try and they were either too wide (narrow Bunsen) or to small.
    Found a Petrolite mantle that almost was perfectly fitted, I had to cut off ca. 1 cm in length.
    The mantle shape and size for these burners are between a wick incandescent burner mantle and a gas upright mantle.
    Hard to find, I think!

    /Conny

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    Unreal how beautiful that lamp is . Wonderful resto.
     
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    @Conny C

    What a beautiful lamp and excellent restoration.

    Congratulations!


    Tony
     
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    A lovely lamp, Conny and you have done a wonderful job restoring it. :clap:
     
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    A very grand old lamp!:thumbup::clap::clap::thumbup:
     
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    Thanks all!
     
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    Have to add my tuppenceworth before I go off to bed and dream of finding a lamp like that Conny. Absolutely gorgeous!
     
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    I could just look at these lovely lamps for hours...the work that went into designing and making them...

    it was truly a different time...

    Thank you for another wonderful old lamp @Conny C :thumbup:
     
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    A serious contender for the "understatement of the year" award.

    It's old, it's beautiful, it works !
     
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    @Conny C

    You already know my thoughts on this restoration, I won't bother to repeat the superlatives here.

    Conny, the 025 on the pricker arm, is that the size of the needle used to do the pricking? If it is, it is quite a large jet size to begin with.
     
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    That is a beautiful lamp! That will light up a room even when it's not running.
    Well done on a the fettle and thank you for the good pics.
     
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    It really reminds me of the lamp that inspired Coleman to start his company.
     
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    Don’t you know the story? William Coleman was taking an evening stroll and saw a bright light coming from a store and it was a pressure lamp, so he decided to make his own. I can’t find a picture of the lamp though.
     
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    @Conny C

    What a stunningly beautiful lamp, wow! Thanks for sharing.
     
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    Do you have a credible reference to that statement?

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    :shock:Maybe....
     
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    The lamp you are thinking of is the Efficient Arc lamp. I'm reading the Coleman History book as published by the ICCC. There sure are some interesting stories in there, few I believe though.

    Photo from the Terry Marsh site.

    Coleman US lamps – 1 – early models

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    @Matty Matt, Yes the Irby lamp is the one I also thought about. I think a lot of legendary company stories were improved with a glass of wine or whiskey in board meeting dinners ;).

    Both the cleaning needle carrier arm and jet says 25 (0,25), so either needle or jet orifice is 0,25 mm. Probably the jet orifice and the pricker needle maybe 0,23/0,24.

    I don´t know as the original needle was broken and gone. I fixed a 0,22 mm acupuncture needle for the carrier.

    Yes 0,25 is a big jet size for a 200 CP kerosene fed burner. I suppose the jet, flame spreader, mantle, fuel and pressure need to optimal to get the right performance.

    Maybe problem with bringing enough heat back to the burner unit, who knows?

    /Conny

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    They looked more similar in my mind @Matty
     
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    Is it the one Matty showed? I must grab that book.

    Tony
     
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    I see a lot of lamps since I been collecting. I have to say this lamp is on top 5 most beautiful lamps.

    Like always my friend great job.
    Beautiful lamp.

    ///Fernando
     
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    Hmmph, obviously you haven't seen my Aladdin 1A. Here is a sneak preview.

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