Coleman 2242 (Made in England)

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  1. Jean J

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    I came home with this wee lamp this week. It has the Coleman Trade Mark with the number 2242 underneath and the words Made in England. Is this number the date and if so what is the model? Is the mica globe original or should it have one of these rounded Coleman globes?

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    I just gave it a bit of a spruce up and I really like this cutie!

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  2. Matthew92

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    That's cute Jean, I don't know what model it is, but I like it. Looks sort of 242 sized, so perhaps the extra 2 is a miss print. :lol:
     
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    The Coleman 242 No Letter. It looks like your's is misspelled. Probably a Friday afternoon job.
    Yes, this is the original mica shade.
     
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    Thanks both, but what about the date, nothing on the base that I can see.
     
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    Is there nothing below the 2242? I thought I could see a couple of marks be they might be nothing.
     
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    Shame collecting lamps isn't like collecting stamps or it would be worth a fortune :D
     
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    Matthew, the number is actually impressed slightly over the Made in England and really you can only see the 'and'.
     
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    It's cleaned up pretty well, but does it run?
     
  9. Jean J

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    Don't be silly - me try lighting a lamp? If you can tell me if everything is there, what it runs on, which mantle to use and how to light it, then, maybe, someday. possibly......
     
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    I thought the slotted ventilator indicated a 242B, assuming originality. However I would have expected a bulging globe for a 242B, again if it was original. none of mine have such large stampings so I await with interest any further explanation.
    Iain Sedgman
     
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    This does look like a 242A but it is correct as model 2242. They were made in the 1930s as a kero version of model 242. Rare things as I only know of maybe another one or two. Even better is the Made in England stamp as the others are Canadian. This one has to be slightly later as it has the ball nut on top so probably contemporary with 242A rather than 242. As a later version it cold have had either the bulge or straight globe of 242 or 242A. The mica globe is probably not original although it might be old as Coleman fitted those to the 241 and 243 series of lamps in the late 1930s. ::Neil::

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    Hello Jean, that's a great find! :thumbup:

    It's a pity that part of the pricker control is snapped off, Jeff.
     
  13. Jean J

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    Yes Jeff, I noticed that something was missing, can I do anything about that?

    Neil, what a great illustration, thanks for that. At long last a keeper, I'd almost given up hope of finding anything other than common TLs.
     
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    Good find, Jean. I hope you get it running.

    Tony
     
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    That's a nice find may have had a knob or although not original an arm as on the Handi pricker would work or possibly a Coleman 242B or similar would fit
    G.P
     
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    Never seen one before
    this is really a great find!!
    Similar to a Canadian early 242A
     
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    Jean.
    Looking at yours the control knob is plain looks early and does the cleaning lever snapped off ,does it look like it had a thread on the end of it for a control wheel .
    Also the pump does it have a pin on shaft and slot to go into etc .
    Bob .
     
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    Hello Jean, Stu may be able to fix it for you, Jeff.
     
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    actually similar to a 242 Junior Canada but not quit.
    very nice piece
     
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    The instruction leaflet shows it with controls like 242K. Oddly enough they do not show a pre heater alcohol cup. ::Neil::

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    I use the Coleman Goldtop 999 (Yellow) Fine Fine Weave Mantles on my coleman lamps including the paraffin one. Really pleased with them and they are exceptionally bright..

    Neil's ad calls it "paraffin lamp" and I guess that ties in with the British market.

    Was there a clip on spirit cup with these as I can't see one?
     
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    Good question - was there one? And who knows?
     
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    All this interest in my wee lamp makes me want to actually get it going so watch this space!
     
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    That was the intention Jean. :thumbup: :lol: :lol:
     
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    These lanterns did not have a spirit cup. The instuctions say to insert a torch through the torch door in the frame base. ::Neil::
     
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    Changed my mind on this one. Not on what it is because that is clear but having searched my records I can't find another example in any collection. So it is not just rare it appears to be unique as far as I know. Got to have been more than one made of course and there may yet be more turn up. I hope one or two do because I suspect these were actually made in Canada and it would be nice to see one marked as Canadian. ::Neil::
     
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    Bob and Jeff - pump has pin on shaft and slot on body. No sign of break on pricker control but may have had threaded end for knob as in Neil's second diagram.
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    Sure the wording is 'Made in England' but can't quite get it clear on photo.

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    Pic showing lighting hatch.

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    Generator head showing number 3000

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    Hello Jean, your latest photos show some interesting details and that design of pump rod etc., means that the pump can be locked in position once there is enough pressure in the tank.

    Congratulations on a great find! :thumbup: Jeff.
     
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    Has the threaded section snapped off ? Or is the pricker wheel attached via another method :-k guess the pricker wheel would be made out of that black hard rubber type material.

    Seems you have a great find there Jean :thumbup: well done 8)
     
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    Has there ever been another found yet? I tried finding on CCF & not a single one there... ever get it running?? Very cool!
     

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