Coleman CQ April 1925 (USA)

Discussion in 'CQ, CQF, CQG, CQF' started by Tony Press, Sep 13, 2021.

  1. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    This is a rather well used Coleman CQ. The lamp is as I received it. It was found in Queensland, Australia.

    The characteristics of the lamp are:

    • Fount stamped "5 4" underneath the Coleman sunshine logo (May 1924).
    • The air intake tube has both the US and British Patent stampings.
    • The fibre handle marked "Coleman Quick-Lite/Wichita, Kansas".
    • The bottom of the fount is stamped "Coleman CQ Quick-lite, Reg US Pat Off, Made in USA, Coleman Lamp Co, Wichita, Kansas".
    • The fibre control wheel marked with the letter "G".
    It came fitted with a R55 roto generator, and the two-armed glass/shade holder. The fibre handle is well worn and slightly damaged by over-tightening at the top of the handle. The nickel is in fair condition with some areas of brass showing. The fuel cap shows signs of rough treatment.


    P1080713.jpeg

    P1080710.jpeg

    P1080695.jpeg

    P1080697.jpeg

    P1080698.jpeg

    P1080709.jpeg

    P1080716.jpeg

    P1080701.jpeg

    P1080703.jpeg

    P1080699.jpeg

    P1080705.jpeg

    Lamp alight; photographed with flash.
    P1080711.jpeg

    Fitted with a "universal" shade holder
    P1080720.jpeg

    P1080721.jpeg


    P1080693.jpeg

    P1080694.jpeg

    The protected nickel.
    P1080696.jpeg


    Cheers

    Tony
     
  2. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    Note: I accidentally reversed the numbers when I was reading off my notes. The title should say "May 1924".
     
  3. Toby Garner

    Toby Garner United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2021
    Messages:
    147
    Location:
    SW Missouri
    Great lamp & shade combo Tony. Appears to be a Famous 120 shade? You were correct in your title BTW. April 1925 is the correct date on your lamp. I tell everyone these old Quicklites will still be running after we're all gone :D my favorites :thumbup:
     
  4. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    @Toby Garner

    My brain hurts with these Coleman dates! I just managed to confuse myself, and indeed going back to the Coleman book, I see I was right in the first place, but I’d convinced myself I was wrong… ](*,).

    I assume the first shade is Famos. It has a larger “bulge” than the similar Coleman shade. The second shade is a reproduction shade.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  5. AussiePete

    AussiePete Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    3,373
    Location:
    Toowoomba Australia
    Nicely done Tony.
    Pete
     
  6. JEFF JOHNSON

    JEFF JOHNSON United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2010
    Messages:
    12,160
    Location:
    Shetland Islands UK..
    Those lamps were built to last!:thumbup::thumbup:
     
  7. Walkop Australia

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2020
    Messages:
    399
    Location:
    Bathurst, Australia
    A beautiful old table lamp which would have many tales to tell. Must have been in some outback place well away from electrification.
     
  8. coleman54

    coleman54 United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2020
    Messages:
    156
    Location:
    Oklahoma, USA
    Good job @Tony Press , it may be just the camera angle but the burner tubes look longer than standard ?


    Larry
     
  9. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    @coleman54

    I’ll check them against my other CQs when I get home.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  10. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
  11. ROBBO55

    ROBBO55 Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2014
    Messages:
    2,585
    Location:
    Somersby, New South Wales, Australia
    Nice work, Tony. :thumbup::thumbup:
     
  12. coleman54

    coleman54 United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2020
    Messages:
    156
    Location:
    Oklahoma, USA
    Thanks @Tony Press ,
    Is it possible the actual measurement is
    2 7/8” ? The first image here is what was just an illusion you may have had on your lamp.
    .
    8EC413D8-24E2-40EC-AA19-DA9ABBCE08D0.jpeg C42CB211-D55C-4EF5-8A0A-117549AAFB11.jpeg 4E658100-5CAF-48DF-99EB-83E11FCEAD5B.jpeg 5933103C-A3B2-4E0B-B46E-77FCF903731C.jpeg 76D81197-15C2-4A58-849E-3CB995B42240.jpeg

    All of the other tubes I have illustrated eventually ended up transitioning back to the
    no. 101-324.

    Larry
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2021
  13. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    Larry

    It looks like I will have to dig out my ancient measuring stick!

    Stand by.

    Tony
     
  14. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    Larry

    I don’t want to take the burner tubes off the lamp as they are well and truly heat-welded to the burner (same as the burner cap to the burner tube).

    So I measured the exposed part of the burner tube and it measured 64.3mm or 2.53 inches in the old money.

    2AA2DC91-8031-47A3-A213-A7CC859E3019.jpeg

    In the photograph of the tube line-up above, the tube on the left is 75mm or
    pretty close to 2 7/8 inches.

    17BE16A9-3A2D-47DB-B18D-B153B9B9AF62.jpeg


    In this process I also uncovered a new old stock burner tube and cap marked “Coleman 101-324”

    86D08AA7-D23A-4198-82AE-6E131775B4E3.jpeg

    72254275-DCC8-455A-81FD-8D45E73B8B9A.jpeg


    Cheers

    Tony

    @coleman54
     

    Attached Files:

  15. coleman54

    coleman54 United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2020
    Messages:
    156
    Location:
    Oklahoma, USA
    @Tony Press , Thank you for all the effort and update. It is never my intention to distract attention from anyone’s example in the threads with my questions, only trying to educate myself and hopefully others with an interest. :)

    Larry
     
  16. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    7,764
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    Larry

    All good as far as I’m concerned. I am very interested in these kinds of detail and appreciate the forensics.

    Now I need to find one of those “early” burner tubes.

    Tony

    @coleman54
     
  17. coleman54

    coleman54 United States Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2020
    Messages:
    156
    Location:
    Oklahoma, USA
    :-({|=:D/
    ////////////:::::::::…………
    @Tony Press , Tony to find these longer tubes on Quick-Lite lamp or lantern originally they are “nearly” always found attached to the flat bottom first mixing chamber with a set screw for air tube. These components are also usually accompanied if original to the examples by the knurled round fuel/air plug, along with a few other nuances. :D/
    These particular components mentioned began to transition out in mid late 1917 giving way to newer more efficient machining.

    Larry
     

Share This Page