Coleman Scout 249 (Canadian) - worth restoring?

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    I thought I would try and restore, although boxed and unused since the 70's. I purchased a new Globe as original was broken. When trying to light, the lamp started leaking fuel. It appears to be coming from the bottom of the generator. Having dismantled the generator it appears the small coil is missing. Now have the feeling that this could be the start of a flood of cash leaving my wallet :). Any advise?
     
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    @MikeB Certainly worth restoring and likely to be a simple job to fix the leak, probably just a case of tightening up the generator clamp nut. True, might need a new generator with the absence of the pricker rod guide coil (serves too as an aid to vapurisation) if the pricker’s absent too. If the pricker rod’s there and the pricker wire’s intact, a tightly-rolled piece of fine brass gauze could serve as a substitute - much as was used in a military Coleman generator.

    You’ve already replaced the globe so that’s a chunk of the restoration cost invested. I’d say stick with it.

    John
     
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    @MikeB

    Or if you fancy making your own coil, you'll need some brass wire 1.24mm or 0.048" (whatever SWG that is) wind it tightly around the needle rod the opposite way to the larger coil / spring.

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    Great, really appreciated. Will now google brass gauze.
     
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    Thanks Henry. Expecting I may need you guys on my next instalment :)
     
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    @MikeB I’ll dig out my Coleman Scout and take some pics of a strip-down/reassembly.
     
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    Definitely worth restoring! If you look on either side of the logo on the fount (tank) you should see the date numbers. Month one side, year on the other. In Canada, the 247 Scouts are pretty common, but the 249 Scouts like yours are definitely scarcer. The nice fat generator makes them a reliable burner. Good luck on the rebuild!

    Mike.
     
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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:

    Those are very well built lanterns and in my opinion, they are well worth restoring.
     
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    I have a 1945 vintage Canadian 249 and is one of the best kerosene burning lanterns in my collection. Now and then take it out on camping trips.
    Very robust and reliable.

    Old Coleman Parts over in the U.S supplied me with new generator, check valve and other parts. Mike is very helpful with queries.
     
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    No need, @ROBBO55 ’s already done a great job of that.
     
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    Jan 1966, thanks for the info.
     
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    1966scout.jpg
    Have ordered 100mesh 0.056mm. Expected 1st week Feb.
     
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    Woah! That looks like a nice lantern you have there! What a great find!
     
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    Yes - that will be one fine lantern and totally worth the fettle.
     
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    @MikeB

    In the image you've just posted, it looks as if it's wrapped tightly round the cleaning needle. Look again at the image I posted, the larger diameter coil is made from thicker brass wire, is wound the opposite way and fits snugly against the sidewall of the generator. If you fancy having a go at replicating one, it's 1 15/162 (49mm)long and the brass wire is 0.07" (1.86mm) in diameter but I think the nearest you'll get is 1/16". Model engineer suppliers are a good place to look for such items.
     
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    That's right on the cusp of the 249 going to 249D production. Noticed a square shouldered bail in your picture and a large round preheat cup--those are 249D features. Cool! Unless the collar is embossed 249D it looks like yours got some of the later features as it rolled off the line. Not unusual for Coleman Canada!

    Mike.
     
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    You guys are too good, your showing me up :) missing parts.jpg
    Do you think all the parts are OK?
    Thanks.....Mike
     
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    Collar is embossed 249.
     

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