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  1. Tony Press

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    +1 on that, Tony :clap:
     
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    An interesting lamp and I noticed the Gloria logo, but a Coleman shade carrier has been fitted, so is this an Australian Gloria special?
     
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    Looks like it meant to take a straight sided glass looking at the bottom clip .
    Then maybe a gloria lantern hood .
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    @Lamp_Doctor & @JEFF JOHNSON

    This definitely is a very interesting (Australian) Gloria from around 1937. I will post detailed photos in the Reference Gallery later today.

    Jeff, I’m not sure if it’s a Coleman shade holder or a copy. It comes in two parts. Detailed photos later today.

    Bob, I too suspect a straight globe to go under the shade. I have one (cracked) from the lantern version of this model (which will be my next fettle, to show the pair). I’ll try it later today.

    I’ve dug up some info on these to help unravel some of the Australian Gloria sequencing.

    Cheers

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    I just tried the cylindrical globe from the lantern: it is too wide for that bottom fitting. Any globe narrow enough to fit that bottom fitting would be too narrow to fit over the cast burner. :-k.

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    That's easy: Just use a globe that is wider at the top and narrower at the bottom:^o:lol:

    Any chance the globe might have rested on the frame base plate and that the thinner metal strip was a guide to hold it in position from the inside?
     
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    Could be, but I still haven't worked out how to "hang" a globe.

    The lamp is now here in the Reference Gallery.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    I would suggest this is what you are looking for.

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    Wow Matty, that certainly looks the part.

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    Henry, it certainly is the part as it came with my Gloria lamp and parchment shade. My lamp was in the one family since new. The Grand Son of the original owner sold me the lamp and it was as is from new.
     
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    I take it that that's how the mica looked when you got it; have you cleaned it at all ?

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    Mate, no, I haven't cleaned it up. I'm not using the parchment shade as gravity has taken it's toll on the shade after 80 years.

    The mica is in pretty good shape. The surface rust on the metal should clean up pretty well and I will get to cleaning it once I have completed my hose move.

    I have restored the lamp and it runs beautifully.
     
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    Ha! That would be it!

    An ugly beast. I’m not sure I’m game to ask Fred Kuntz to make one ;).

    I had thought that it could hang off the outer holes in the cast burner...

    When you get a chance, would you be so kind as to give me the dimensions of that mica globe?

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    I've just been reviewing what information I have on Gloria.

    It seems to me that it is a terrible shame that Chandler bought the company and disposed of the GPA section of the company. Gloria were demonstrating they had the ability to produce high quality pressure lamps, stove & lanterns despite the demise of the American, Gloria Light Co. In fact, once left to their own devices, Gloria Australia produced lamps that are as good as any ever made.

    I strongly suspect that the next Gloria lantern release would have been what is now known as the Collins Brothers 'Radiant Star'
     
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    nice with a very bright light.
     
  17. Tony Press

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    Here is the 1937 Gloria Table Lamp’s non-identical twin. It has the same burner/control block as the table lamp. They were advertised together.

    A bit of a struggle to get the generator/vapouriser to work. I’ll probably build a new one from Coleman parts.

    I’ll post detailed photos in the Reference Gallery later in the week.

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    Seeing pictures of your lantern have reminded me that I have one similar. Somewhere !
    From memory, the tank is bare brass and it's missing the glass, I must dig it out and see why I haven't fettled it yet.

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    I’d be very interested to see it!

    Cheers

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    To the Gloria King.
    Good to see that black top running .
    They are so easy to light and give out a bright light to .
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    Have you got your “black top” working with the original pricker?

    Tony
     
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    Yes Its working had it alight at Ballarat light up .
    Picture of mine in Terrys site .
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    No sooner said than done (allowing for the time difference). I'm afraid it's not in very good condition, very little plating left, missing the handle and glass and though the vapouriser appears to have had very little use, there's no cleaning needle.

    Here's an image of the main valve showing the remnants of graphited string which was between the jamb nut and a brass washer. Should that be there ? There is good graphite packing in the valve.

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    Fitting a new pump clamp washer was obviously beyond the capability of a previous owner but stripping the knurling off the clamp with a pair of pliers was not.
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    Is the starter valve on your lantern the same as this ?

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    This was meant to be an image of a test burn but I forgot to cancel the flash.
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    Aah, that's better.

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    Thanks, Henry.

    Did you get that from Australia?

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    Mine had the same string there, and under the vapouriser clamp nut.

    I replaced with graphite sheet, but I’m unsure whether the control wheel needed it.

    As for the vapouriser nut, it did need it because the inside (mating) surface of the nut had some defects.

    My starter valve is the same as yours.

    Best regards

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    Yes it came from Australia - many years ago now.
    I wasn't sure about the string, after all, why would it be needed when there is a perfectly good graphite packing which would surely prevent leakage when the valve was opened. However, the 2 mm thick brass washer was a perfect fit inside the jamb nut and looked like it belonged there, so to be on the safe side, I replaced the graphite(less) string with PTFE tape which I twisted into a string.

    Looking again at your example, I see that the support collar on mine is different. The sides of the slot (for the control valve) at the bottom of the image are not parallel which leads me to believe that this is not original but a modification by a previous owner. The collar is upside down in the image.

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    The modification to the collar would be because, in the original form, the fittings for the pricker, control wheels etc have to be removed to manoeuvre the collar off.

    Cheers

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