Found another one

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  1. rayw

    rayw United Kingdom Subscriber

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    Oh dear I was only going to collect more unusual lamps because of limited room.
    But I could not resist this one.

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    It has a fluted stem and a different fount to my other one

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    The bottom is black with a sticker,
    It seems quite heavy and has very little signs of wear or damage.
    And it has a mark on the base

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    The glass says tilley 182 on it

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    So I spent some time and gave it a rub, then changed the seals and pump washer.
    And soon I hope to fire it up.

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    I don't know if it should be painted but I like it polished up, and this can be very easily changed if need
     
  2. JEFF JOHNSON

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    A good find!:thumbup:

    That appears to be an earlier example than your other one, perhaps you could check the socket which the control cock screws into, if it's just deep enough for the GF., control cock which is fitted to it then it's a 1940's lamp, but if the socket is deep enough for an XN., control cock then it's a pre 1940 lamp, the black paint is usually on the pre 1940 lamps.

    Tilley offered different finishes and one of those finishes was highly polished and lacquered and the link below shows relevant information.

    https://classicpressurelamps.com/threads/1939-tilley-catalogue.1471/
     
  3. rayw

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    Thank you for the information Jeff
    That's very interesting because this one is in much better condition, with no real dents or dings in it.

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    The control cock fitted is shown above.

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    The opening has a plain bore below the threads.

    Interesting that it could have been bought polished and lacquered, that is certainly my thought now, after I have tested it then I will clean it degrease it and lacquer it.
     
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    It's the depth of the socket which is a good guide to the age of the lamp and the link below shows information about Tilley control cocks.

    8 Tilley control cocks
     
  5. rayw

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    It's not quite clear from the picture but, The socket is 20mm deep and the current control cock is approx 19 mm long. So it wouldn't accept a longer version than the one installed.
    So I assume from that it's a 1940s version, I am very pleased with it and it has been pumped up with air for a while and seems to hold pressure well, the burner assembly looks well used but I'll give it a try before replacing anything.
     
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    When I first looked at the images of your lamp I thought that it was a 1940s example, but because of the black paint I was not certain, the flanges at the top and bottom of the stem are usually broader on the earlier examples.
     
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    It's rather nice, Ray. Congratulations :thumbup:
     
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    @rayw

    That’s a very nice Tilley TL11.

    I like the fact that it has the oval Tilley transfer on the black paint on the base plate.

    It deserves a place in the Reference Gsllery.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Very nice indeed...:thumbup:
     
  10. rayw

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    Thanks @Tony Press
    I will try and get some better pictures Of it and also a picture of it when working.
     
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    What a nice one. I wouldn't be able to resist such a find as well.
     
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    A very nice lamp and understandably difficult to walk past!
     
  13. rayw

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    Cold weather and lockdown gives us plenty of time, so today I fired it up and it works pretty well, it goes a bit dim, and flickers but turning the control cock a couple of times seems to help, I will run it for a couple of hours and see how it is.
    Managed to get a fairly decent mantle shape this time.

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    Gotta stay away from there lovely lamps or I'm going to wind up hooked on lamps as well as lanterns!!
    :doh:
     
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    A grand old Tilley!:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    @rayw Looking good.

    Bits of loose carbon floating about in the vapouriser are the most likely cause of the light dimming, with a bit of luck, they'll get poked out before very long.
     
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    @Henry Plews yes henry I wondered about that so yesterday I took the vaporiser off and tapped it, a few bits of carbon fell out, so I put some paraffin in a dish and using a hypodermic syringe with a blunt needle I put it into the open end and squirted it several times, quite an amount of carbon came out, I continued for about ten minutes untill it seemed to stop coming out, then cleaned the vaporiser needle and re assembled the lamp.
    Result it was brighter and did not flicker, I was well pleased.
    Unfortunately after a couple of hours I noticed a hole in the mantle, so shut down, i had taken the precaution of using the modern glass from my othe lamp to prevent any disaster.
     
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    Very very nice, you have done a wonderful job there looks awesome well done
     
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    Thank you I am well pleased with this lamp, dont know why but it has a certain appeal to it which I dont get from all the lamps I see.
     
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    That's why I love these Tilley table lamp as well
     
  21. James K

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    Re the black painted base with decal on a 1940's Tilley.
    This 1940's pl53 has the same so this feature must have carried over for a short while.
    Unfortunately this tank is full of cracks and now lives in the scrap bin.

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  22. JEFF JOHNSON

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    Thanks for the information James and with Tilley's products one is never certain and that's why I said that the black paint is usually on the pre 1940 tanks.

    The base plate from that knackered tank could be removed and made into a reflector and I found that the nozzle from a knackered WW2., PL-53 tank also had a use and the links below show relevant information.

    https://classicpressurelamps.com/threads/blanchard-pump-pressure-valve-adaptor.4751/

    https://classicpressurelamps.com/threads/blanilley.5258/
     

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