Have I made a mistake ? (FL6)

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  1. Gizz Lithuania

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    Hello,

    So recently I had an opportunity to buy this Tilley FL6 lantern, but because my knowledge of UK made lanterns is second to none I've passed. And now I'm having second thoughts... So is this a rare lantern ? The seller asked 150 eur. for it, so would you consider this a good deal ?
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    @Gizz

    These floodlights are not rare, but not very common, either.

    Yours looks like it’s complete, with the fitting that sits on top of a tripod. The FL6 can be used with the tripod or stand.

    I have seen these lamps sell for much more than what you paid.

    If you look in the Reference Gallery you will see how much they are loved.

    Tony
     
  3. Gizz Lithuania

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    I have not bought it - so I did make a mistake.
    Well I still may have a chance to buy it after 6 months.

    And the seller was convinced that it was used in a ship because of color
    and the fitting. But in the reference gallery I've noticed that this
    gray color is standard for later models and this mounting is standard as well.
     
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    It's a later model (1950's -1960's) there is a dent in the tank and it's not possible see the fuel gauge or the pump, but what I can see, appears to be in decent condition and that stand is fairly scarce.

    The base plates of that style of tank sometimes distend, so it's best not to over pressurise the tank.

    I would try to get the price down a bit.
     
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    That stand is missing the tripod that goes underneath it and is pretty useless without it - unless you want to fix the floodlight somewhere semi-permanently.

    I've no idea what 150 Euro is worth these days but I wouldn't want to be paying much more than, say, £50 for that FL6 in the UK. On the other hand, it is already where you are and probably pretty rare in those parts so you might struggle finding a better one. Postage to get a nicer example sent out to you would be prohibitive.

    As Jeff says, try to get the price down to maybe 100 Euro or less...
     
  6. Gizz Lithuania

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    Thank you for the info.
    So I've did not make a mistake after all:

    1. Later model

    2. No tripod

    3. It is not a nautical lantern

    So 80 - 100 eur. mainly because it is interesting to me.
     
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    I'd say David was being a little tight at £50 as the stand even incomplete makes it worth a little more. The dent does detract a bit but I'd be saying a UK price of £75 - £100 (85 - 115 euro)
     
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    Is it possible that it is a rather new Swiss civil defence lamp ?
     
  9. Gizz Lithuania

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    I guess not, because civil defense items usually have some kind of marking and on this one I struggled to find the manufacturer's marking (only on the glass).
    And the seller tried to convince me that it is from a ship...
     
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    That floodlight could have been used on a ship and that may explain the absence of a tripod, the stand which is there could have been bolted to the deck or a work bench etc., or perhaps to some type of turntable.
     
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    Swiss FL6 are grey.

    They come with and without grey paint or/and label. Even half painted, tank painted top galvanised.
     
  13. Gizz Lithuania

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    As much as I checked - almost all of the later FL6 are grey.
    And almost all of the civil defense/military purpose build lanterns I've seen have (or had) instruction's glued on them - like the red label on one
    in your link. And if we would believe the seller who really tried to convince me that this is a naval item and Mr. Jeff Johnson
    agreed that it is plausible so. And as you know Switzerland lacks sea. So I do not see any indication this being a Swiss civil defense item.
     
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    That a lamp is grey doesn't mak it naval based for me.
    For me.
    Me thinking that a up and down and left to right moving object like a ship is not a good place to use fragile mantles.
    And they used FL6 on the canal boats so anything is possible.
     
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    That's basically the same, what I have said to the seller :content:.

    So what are the other differences between civil defense and regular FL6?

    In my opinion:

    1. The box and accessories.

    2. Extra decals and instruction on the lamp.

    And this lamp lacks both of them.
     
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    @Gizz

    This is the tripod for an FL6. You have the rotating part.

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    Cheers

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    @Tony Press there are shorter cradles for the FL6 stands too.

    The ones with pins in the legs are Tilley and the screw tighten ones are Bullfinch so I'm told.
     
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    This is a bog-standard FL6 which could have been used absolutely anywhere - which was the idea, really - it was a general purpose lamp. It could have been used on a ship but that doesn't make it nautical; no more than if it had been used on a locomotive making it 'railway'.

    The support is pretty useless as it is because the lamp won't stand on it without the tripod underneath. As a buyer, I wouldn't be paying anything extra for the stand - in fact, I'd be using that as a bargaining chip to get money off because the lamp as it stands (or, in fact, doesn't) is incomplete. Most likely, you'll end up using the lamp sitting on its base rim and the frame will end up as another piece of junk cluttering a corner in your garage - trust me, I know... :oops:
     

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