Hi from new member with an X246

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  1. Geraint

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    D5B3860B-FC79-49A0-9A8F-9520B76CDEF0.jpeg CBEAA459-B3BF-4304-838E-8CA51E1B22CE.jpeg E5FF0D85-3AFE-4B67-B555-53A53D8E639F.jpeg DD07557C-2708-4E37-83CD-AF38EDB7A23E.jpeg CC7905E4-B5E2-411F-B0EE-D843B9D3001A.jpeg Hello, just taken this out of storage.
    Ordered a kit and hope to get it running soon. Only problem is with one of the cage legs, looks like the thread has snapped so I am reluctant to try the others.
    Open to any advice and hope you can see the pictures
     
  2. JEFF JOHNSON

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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:

    Add penetrating oil to the other 3 and let them soak overnight, then try to tighten each one just a touch.
    That often unseizes them and if it does, then gently loosen them a little at a time.

    The broken threaded part will need to be drilled out and the threads in the hole retapped and a new cage rod made, that cage does come apart, but it's been together since 1946, so it may be a bit stiff.

    Do let us know how you get on.

     
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    @Geraint welcome to the forum. That X246 Pork Pie is a fine lamp and a good fettling project.
    I had this problem not so long ago. In my case I got a similar fount with all 4 legs snapped off below the lip of the fixing.
    As @JEFF JOHNSON suggested you will need to remove the entire frame using a penetrating oil and very carefully, on the good legs, tightening and untightening, by using minute degrees of movement.
    Then once you have the frame off, in the broken stud, drill a small hole, sized to take a small diameter easy out removal tool, down the centre of the broken stud thread, not right through just enough to take the easy out.
    I found that the easy out tool did the job well, in fact in 2 of my stud removals, the studs were quite loose and could be coached out by jamming a small screw driver into the drilled hole.
    Hope this helps
    Cheers
    Pete
     
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    @Geraint

    You have the first version of the X246: the “pork pie” tank and short bail (handle), so it’s from 1946/7.

    It’s a great piece, but you’ll find that your fingers get hot carrying it with the short bail.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Welcome to the forum @Geraint . A fine looking lantern.
     
  6. KAB

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    Nice lamp, hope you have it lit and running soon
     
  7. Graham P

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    Take care with drilling or you may drill right through as those inserts have a blind hole
    The inserts also may be tilted slightly outwards, a reverse drill bit would be worth a try
     
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    As above.

    I have seen reverse drill bits used on youtube for extracting broken studs on engines etc, I reckon (I am no expert mind,) its the way to go on a slow careful drill at the correct angle, same as the cage legs. Even if it just makes the hole for the stud extractor.
     
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    Might be worth checking out youtube to see how it's done, perhaps model making section has some tips if you have not done this kind of thing before.
     
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    @Geraint

    Welcome to the forum.

    You have a lovely lantern there which was only made in that guise for one year (I believe).

    Good luck with your project.

    Regards Jeremy
     
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    Hi Geraint, that’s a great lantern you have there. Follow all the above advice and you will be rewarded with a good amount of satisfaction!

    Good luck with your fettle, Stevie
     

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