ID please. Veritas?

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  1. Emiel

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    Hello,
    Recently picked up this ex dutch military lantern. Can someone please help me with identifying this one? It looks like a Veritas.
    Thanks!
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    Im running it now with the fuel it came with. It smells like petrol but it 'behaves' like paraffin if that makes sense... All info on this lamp is helpful.
    Thanks, Emiel
     
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    Hmm.. isn't this the one that there was all the confusion over? It uses the 'shellite' type fuel but it has kero stencilled on the side?
    Check out the pump with the thumb hole...?
     
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    @Emiel
    Jeremy is correct, it’s a Veritas horizontal pump 350 built for the Dutch Army.
    It has the original Veritas glass, these are quite hard to replace.
    I suspect that this model is not kerosene, even though it’s labelled ”kero” on the fount.
    My suspicions are aroused by the configuration of the hood on your lantern.
    Generally, kerosene models have 2 clips that retain the hood on the frame. Petrol or Shellite models have the hood retained by a nut. Yours has the nut. Also there is the thumb hole in the pump also indicating it’s not kerosene.
    Someone with more knowledge will be able to help more.
    I also believe that because of the Dutch Army fuel mixup, these lanterns got an undeserved reputation of very poor performance.
    Hope this helps.
    Cheers
    Pete
     
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    Damn unobservant of me, I missed those on the small screen of my iPhone. Well, that’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it!
     
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    Indeed Veritas on gasoline (benzine) hole in the pump knob is the "give away".
    You also have to unscrew the pump first.
     
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    Thanks guys @AussiePete @podbros @WimVe @X246A . Indeed, the pump is similar to a coleman, so unscrew first then pump with thumb over the hole.
    It runs like a charm to be honest.
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    @Emiel that is cracking, lovely lantern.
     
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    :-s :? So that's got a kerosene Vergasser - presumably vapouriser - and it's stencilled "Kero" yet it runs on gasoline-type fuels - have I got that right? ](*,)

    If that's the 350 model, then the 350P should be the kero version i.e. 'P' for Petroleum - is that right?

    What's "Breekbaar"..?
     
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    @David Shouksmith

    According to my favourite online translator, "Breekbaar" means fragile.

    Henry.
     
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    Thanks Henry - I should have done that myself but it just didn't occur to me... :oops:
     
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    @Emiel

    What you have is a P350. It runs on Petrol/Gasoline.
    The fuel tank, control valve and frame with hood are Veritas, The burner assembly is AGM, American Gas Machine, as it the pricker control and pump tube with pump.
    These lanterns run very well indeed.

    Veritas P350

    Cheers,
    Norman
     
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    I think that there was a time that kerosene was similair with gasoline in the army.
    This may also be part of the reason that wrong fuels where used. Under petromax users still an "issue".

    @Emiel, what is the lantern using now ?
     
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    Thanks for the clarification in this lamp. Much appreciated.

    So it has the wrong stencil on the tank and the wrong marking on the box.

    Either way I'm content with my new addition to the collection.

    @WimVe The lamp is now using the fuel is came with. Probably 20 y/o unleaded gasoline. Ill clean the tank today and put some Wasbenzine in it to see how it runs.
     
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    Follow what @Norman says.

    It runs on petrol/gasoline/Coleman fuel or equivalent, NOT paraffin/kerosene. The control gear, pump and burner are AGM and very similar to Coleman lanterns if you're used to those. As it runs so well there doesn't seem to be much that needs doing to it.
     
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    Ok, drained the old fuel and added fresh wasbenzine. Runs perfect.
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  18. WimVe

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    From what is told to me is that army stocks had to be checked every now and then. So big chance that lanterns do not end in the right box.

    Wasbenzine is prima.
     
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    Unfortunately, in the UK, we're not considered grown-up enough to be allowed to have waschbenzine... :-&
     
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    Absolutely. And we're not allowed to do so many other things it drives me nuts. From charity shops that only trinkets and second hand books because everything else is too dangerous, to fuel, to... just about everything that's might be fun! Argggghhh, my head might explode it annoys me so much!
     
  21. WimVe

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    I guess that's not allowed eitehr !
     
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    =; Not recommended and Definitely not allowed [-X... ](*,)

    I do like the look of these Dutch lanterns, though... Well done you!:thumbup:
     
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