Yes. Almost all kero you buy in Australia is JetA-1 (we don’t refine it here). Even the blue stuff is JetA-1 dyed, in most cases. Just make sure you’re not getting a batch of old Antarctic JetA-1 that’s got lots of antifreeze… Tony
It’s straight from the airport pump so should be awesome Tony,thanks for all your contributions which have been so helpful Merry Xmas to all…….look at you helipad price
I have used Jet A1 decanted from a drum that was supplying helicopters. Excellent fuel in my experience.
Welcome @Alexandre Freddi. Many people in Australia and the U.S.A. use it with no problems at all. What lamps are you burning it in?
Unless the Jet A-1 fuel has had some substance added to it, it will be pure kerosene. It should not “burn more black smoke than kerosene” because it is kerosene. Cheers Tony
Yes, Jet A fuel has some aditives pure kerosene doesn't have. I have 3 Petromax and all have the same black smoke when using JetA instead regular kerosene. But for sure, its a better combustion. The rapid works diferent during pre heat but the light intensity I can't see much diference. If you have a white car and park every day near an airport runway , you will have a black residue, easy to see, in the body paint. How do I know? I work in an airport an my car is white.
@Alexandre Freddi Are you talking about Jet A or Jet A-1. Either way you will note that the Jet A-1 that I use is that shown in the data sheet linked above (pure kerosene; no additives). Cheers Tony
Please, read section 3 of data sheet. Where we read ," no aditives" in quantities dangerous to health. There are aditives and they mentioned wich is used. You mentioned the JetA and JetA 1. Probably the reason for the black byproduct and I dont know which one I used. A forum that talk about everything, not just lamps.
Some formulations of Jet-A may contain a deicing agent mixed in that's pretty nasty when burned and may foul up your vaporizers in short order. Avoid any of the odd winterized stuff.
That is correct, @Dashwood. I won’t go into details here, but I know quite well, through my professional life, what Jet A1-1 fuel I’m getting. The Jet A-1 I get is exactly the same as that widely sold retail in Australia as kerosene, except it is not died blue. Tony Cheers Tony
I wish I still had a contact at our local airport, it would be a lot cheaper than having to buy paraffin (kerosene) at retail prices.
I used to buy, until recently, paraffin direct from the pump at my local hardware store. Sadly the owner sold up and retired and the business changed dramatically and doesn’t even sell pre-packed now. I have taken to siphoning 28 sec heating oil from my tank at home for my pressure lamps but am not so keen on using it in wick lamps in the home or in my pressure stoves when camping. It’s unturned odour is much stronger and in my opinion unpleasant too. Regards, Jeremy
Some fuel suppliers allow customers to fill their own (suitable) containers at the pump. I run my pressure lamps on kerosene a.k.a. 28 sec. heating oil and when I need more, I just go to my local suplier. The last lot I got (last October) was 80 pence/litre! O.K. in pressure stuff but unsuitable for wick lamps as Jeremy mentions, it's smelly and smokes more. Premium kero (i.e. paraffin so think Esso Blue) was twice the price at £1.60/ltr. but still cheaper than pre-packed stuff. Give these guys a call and see if they can help out. Johnston Oils Bear in mind you can only store 30ltr at home without having to notify anyone. Fuel Storage Regulations
There are too many kerosene-type fuels around. Not all are exactly the same types. Some are straight-run petroleum kerosine/kerosene, others are specific blends of several kero-like distillates. Still others are completely synthesized/SPK/Fischer-Tropsch types, and not refined from petroleum base. Besides, there could also be bio-fuel kerosenes made from bagasse or other plant-based materials. All are generally still called 'kerosene'. The domestic or so-called 'household' or lighting kerosene would usually be a straight-run, petroleum-based fuel without additives and in most instances, have a cas no.8008-20-6. The 1-k and 2-k kerosenes belong to this class. Aviation kerosenes and Jet/Rocket propellant kerosrnes on the other hand, like the Jet A, A1, JP-1/3, RP-3 and many others would need to be processed differently to meet a stringent set of specifications according to the relevant Standards like the ASTM, DEF-STAN, etc. As for additives, their presence would depend on whether they are optional or required/mandatory for the intended use. They can still contain the stuff with the same cas no as the household kerosene but might have others blended in to suit the needs. Example, those having cas numbers 64742-81-0, and many others. In general, there's bound to be some additives in most aviation fuels to meet certain requirements. These details are usually not stated in the MSDS. Nevertheless, the additives are usually not the reason for the 'extra' sooty flames if present during combustion when compared to domestic kerosene. According to the specs, there is a maximum allowable 25% of aromatic hydrocarbons in Jet A and A1. (Aromatics tend to burn with a more sooty open-type flame than the aliphatics or saturated hydrocarbons like the paraffins). In a well-tuned or adjusted burner of a pressure lantern or stove, there should be no sooty flames, regardless of the aromatic content, so long as the boiling range, molecular mass and energy contents are within the typical kerosene's range. Typically, but not necessarily, the household kerosene have a sightly lower aromatic content than Jet A/A1 fuels. You can check the exact manufacturer's MSDS of your local aviation fuel suppliers. Example, it could be BP Australia, Petrobas/Vibra Energia, South America, Sasol, South Africa, etc. The following attachments would generally outline some details of whatever mentioned here.
