Primus 1082 S, 1953, 450 CP

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  1. Claus C

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    I have always loved these bluehooded Primus, but the are as difficult to find as tears in the rain.
    Now I can cross that off the list.
    I got lucky here as the lamp has been fired 1 or 2 times and the condition is very good. As almost all these Primus, the strange hood looses enamel where the connections is made - a constructionfault I beleive.
    The cage has a single stress-crack, but so do I :lol:
    450 cp is not often seen on a lamp ;)



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  2. JEFF JOHNSON

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    A great find indeed! :thumbup:
     
  3. Pod Bros

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    Nice one Mr.C :thumbup:

    Not a lamp I have seen before but I like the colour and shape very much!

    Did they make these for a short or long time, do you know?

    Regards,

    PB
     
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    Thanks fellow lampers.
    According to Nils Stephenson, then this lamp was listed from 1952 to 1954, short time.
    This and the bluehooded Primus 1084 tends to show up in Danmark.
    The 1084 probably shows in DK because the largeish telephonecompany KTAS bought them as work- and emergency light amongst other lamps. The 1084 often carry a KTAS-stamp, but.....
    if that is the same with this 1082 - I have no idea, but then they stopped stamping the lamps.
    Maybe Nils S has better knowledge.
    Any way - they are pretty hard to find and thats too bad, fore as you say they look nice O:)

    Claus C
     
  5. karli

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    Gratulatiion.

    I am looking for years for this lamp
     
  6. Nils Stephenson

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    Congratulations on the lamp Claus. There aren't many of these around, so well done. I havn't found any geographical connection with these 'S' models as the few around have been found in almost as many countries as the number of known lamps. The 'normal' 1084 does tend to turn up relatively often in DK, because of the KTAS connection.

    I assume the 450cp was a more accurate conversion from the 500hk used in Germany, rather than just saying they were 500cp.
     
  7. Claus C

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    Ah thanks Nils, I have actually never seen a 1082 blue hooded from elsewhere than DK.
    The 1084, 1953 from KTAS is possible to see here:

    http://lampycisnieniowe.pl/forum/Thread-Primus-1084-KTAS-rok-1953

    I dont understand why Primus made the 1082S and the 1084 side by side giving the same output of light - but they did :?

    Claus C
     
  8. Carlsson

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    There was one sold just a month or two ago in Sweden.
     
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  9. Claus C

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    Ah, Ok - 1 then Christer :thumbup: I actually did see that one.
    I can see that Juan also present it and another recently was sold in the UK - so I must have mixed the 1082 up with the 1084 bluehooded lamps ](*,) .

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    Was there now???

    Damn it! ](*,) :lol:

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  11. Nils Stephenson

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    I think you might be confusing the 'normal' 1082 (no blue top) and 1084 (normal shaped blue top) with the 1082S and 1084S (both with this special blue top). There was no difference in cp (300) between the 1082 and 1084, the only difference was that the 1084 had a quick start. The 1082S and 1084S both had 450cp with everything else being the same as the 'normal' models.

    As far as I know, KTAS only used the standard 1084.
     
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  12. Claus C

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    ](*,) :lol: All those models Primus - why :?

    Nils, I confuses me while:

    I have 1084 normal blue top, both with 500 cp jet and needle. Both from the year 1953. As I dont recall any other stamps, I asume these lamps are 500 cp's.

    I have this 1082S strange blue top, and it is 450 (500) cp, also made in the year 1953.

    So why did Primus the same year make 2 different types of 450-500 cp lamps? To me there is no differences but the hood and modelnumber and I think it must have been a expensive to make these side by side using different tools to create the same output in 2 different lamp.

    I am aware of the normal 1082 is a 350 cp.

    Claus C
     
  13. Nils Stephenson

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    The standard 1084 was always a 300cp lamp according to the catalogues. If you have one with a 500cp jet, then this must be a later replacement. That was the whole idea with Primus releasing the 'S' version, as it gave them a lantern with a higher cp.
     
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    Ok - I didnt know. I did see a Høvik 1084 marked from the factory with 350-500 cp on the swedish fotogenforum, but that is again another lamp.
    A bit easy to get confused here :?

    http://www.fotogenforum.se/fotogen/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1130&sid=a58863db42f21858afa5f2bc924bd4db

    So as my 1084's are unmarked and both had this 500 jet I thought it was like the Primus 1084 from Høvik also. But then again - it is another 1084, though build on Primus-license.

    Claus C
     

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