Standard 2432 SP

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  1. Martin K.

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    Hi all!

    I'd like to present my latest fettling project.
    Surely it is a Standard lantern, but I'm quite confused about the manufacturing date/place (Germany/Switzerland) and the correct type designation.
    First I thought it is a 2422, but after a image magnification and some tries with Inkscape vectorisation this doesn't seem to be correct. It looks more than 2432, and technically it is like a kerosene/paraffin version of the 2045.
    The glass was missing, so I had to put in a new one. I also had to remove the steel gauze with asbestos wick from the preheating cup. The vaporizer is the same size like in the Petromax 900 (Little Baby), including the fine thread at the jet/nipple which is stamped "20" (so I assume that it has 200HK, confirmed by the pricker diameter).

    There's no source on the web (including the manual pages here) where the 2432 SP is documented. Please see my photos (before&after), and maybe there's someone out there to help me with my questions?
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    This was the first test run after a good cleanup:
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    This was the status when I received it:
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    Here's a close up of the type designation, stamped in black on the green lacquer. Unfortunately it was quite worn. I had to repaint the fount and will need to reproduce the stamping:
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    Best regards, Martin
     
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    Beautifull little lamp Martin and nice work. The tank is painted spot on the colour of the hood. Well done. :thumbup:
    Is the cage/tragestell also paint or is it enanmel like I suppose the hood is?

    Claus C
     
  3. Martin K.

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    Thank you Claus!

    The frame is enamel, like the hood.

    And yes, I went to the specialist to match the colour. It is now "RAL 6025" and I've got enough paint left now for at least 100 more lanterns... :whistle:

    So if there's someone who likes to have his lantern repainted in RAL 6025 green ... :D
     
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    It looks like your lamp has a swiss-made handle and it also looks like the asbest is origin. The military orders evrything in green so its possible a old army-special O:)
    http://tgmarsh.faculty.noctrl.edu/germanylant.html
    I envy you :content:

    Claus C
     
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    Without that marking this would be 2422 for sure. It is a pity the marks are obscured because I am not convinced it is actually 2432. You may be right but for me the evidence is just not quite good enough for ne to list it as a new model. ::Neil::
     
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    It's restored well and it's a fine lantern! :thumbup:
     
  7. Martin K.

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    Thanks, Jeff!

    Neil,
    the 2422 also was my first thought. But then I began to research the web and found many pics of 2422 lanterns, all of which are (almost?) identical to the well known Petromax 850. However, compared to my lantern there are some main differences. On my lantern there is:
    - a smaller tank with pump mounted lower and in a flatter angle
    - a separate pump valve on the shoulder of the tank
    - a massive iron pump knob and bakelite pricker control not as a wheel
    - the smaller vapourizer (PX little baby style)
    - the preheating cup is not completely around the vapourizer
    - the filler cap has four longer rims and is not knurled
    - the outer hood has a big hole to inspect the nozzle.

    I've got a Petromax 850 here as well (yet unrestored, but clearly marked), and it matches all of the 2422 pictures that I found much better in the above mentioned points. On the other hand my lantern is very similar to the 2045, as said before. That's why I'm quite confused. I also thought already that someone could have mixed up the parts :-k

    Attached you can find some pics for comparison:
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    Regards, Martin
     
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    Martin. Yes I am beginning to think you are right and this should be listed as 2432. I have looked at a lot of 2422 images. There are differences and whilst I think this lantern is a later variation of 2422 it may well have been different enough for Standard to give it a new number. Taken together the evidence does support your interpretation of the number. Maybe I will list it. I would like to see a few more though to confirm the model. ::Neil::
     
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    This Standard looks just like the Standard 2045 as long as you compare:

    -the same tank, with the pump placed on the shoulder.
    -the cage/tragestell and the hood, which also have the same pattern.
    -the controlhandle looks exactly like the Swiss-made Standards.

    The big difference is the innerparts - the whole vapourizer, the bottomplate and the preheater - all made for kerrosene/petroleum.

    I see no similaritys to the Petromax 850 at all but the colour.

    The stamp 2432 SP looks origin as the whole lamp does.

    It is probably a special army-model - wild guess.

    Look at this:

    http://www.museum-of-pressurelamps.net/standard/2045green/2045-green-01.html

    Claus C
     
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  10. Martin K.

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    Yes Claus, that's what I mean. My lantern exactly looks like a kerosene/paraffin version of the 2045. But there's also a table lamp version on the web which has similarities to my lantern:

    Standard 2076

    But both of them belong to the 20xx series, whereas mine can be clearly seen to belong to the 24xx series.

    To my knowledge Standard used the green colour for most of their lanterns. Only some of their models have white, blue or even red/brown enamel. So the green colour on my lantern is not necessarily indicating a military use in my eyes.

    The globe cage and the collar as well as the outer/inner hood of these Standard lanterns have big similarities amongst each other and even to the Petromax 850. Only the gas/petrol version 2045 has a slightly different hole pattern on the inner hood in order to match the vapourizer / preheater design.

    Regards, Martin
     
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    Yeah it sure looks like a 24-- and it could have been fettled, but then it should be the cage. The stamp looks origin and it still looks like a unfettled lamp to me.
    It (the cage at least) is certainly made at the Swiss plant. When the swiss produced Standard then they made the cage/tragestell so the "sticks" gathering the topring and the bottom-ring so that they were pressed out in the bottomring - the germans bend the sticks so they were sitting inside the bottomring and I believe they moved the pump too.
    The 2045 you showed above is a german-made. The swiss made these to 1942 I think.
    The one from my link, Uli Beck, is a swiss-made.
    I have seen and stored a forum-talk about this but I cant find it in my mess ](*,)
    Neil might know about this.

    Claus C
     
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