Succes Table Lamp?

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  1. James

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    I assume this lamp is made by Succes, based on the the resemblance of the tank to e.g. this heater:

    41041[/ATTACH] 1455046305-pic2.jpg
     
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    Looks like this one in the 1932 catalogue. ::Neil::

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    Thanks Neil looks close enough. I see "essence" which is good news as I have a burner I can use for this.

    One problem I have is some vandal has chopped the base out completely, even grinding it flush to the walls of the tank ](*,)

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    :shock: :shock: :shock:

    ...Was it a steel base (originally) ???
    ... Shame... :( ... ....And I was thinking.... ...."Actually it doesn't look like a 'Wreck' to me"...?
     
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    Nope brass. Here's whats left of it :D

    Any of you blacksmith types know how to make a replacement base plate? Can I fold a lip on a brass plate using a hammer and dolly or do I need to use a swager?

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    Hi James

    Could this be a suggestion to your lovely lamp?
    Interesting part starts 1 minut in.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGVPUGMPXM

    Claus C
     
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    ...Hi James,
    Easier if you have a swager or know of one you can use/practice on, but No, you don't need one....What are your Tinsmithing skills like?.. :)
     
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    Hi James

    What O/D of plate are you looking at ? (Tricky to work out from what I see, as it's doesn't look concentric )
    How much of a lip are you looking at ?
    Is it a flat, concave or convex bottom ?
     
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    Hi all
    Yes Succes gasoline lamp (i think a baby Succes)
    But I have absolutely no idea of the burner type.
    the bottom is usually brass made
     
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    I cut out a disc out of some scrap copper sheet to measure the O/D. The disc is 149mm in diameter and is a little snug. There is one bit that doesn't quite fit but I think the tank rim may be deformed a little where a hole has been drilled. I think 148mm would be about right.

    The lip is 8mm.

    No idea about the bottom but I assume flat will be ok.

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    What angle for the lip ? 90 degrees would be to much aye ? What you reckon, 70 degrees lip from flat @ 8mm long ?
     
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    1455227359-pic6.jpg

    It's an 8mm lip, not sure about the angle, 70deg would probably be ok. The rim has splayed out a bit when I unrolled it.
     
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    So it should be 90 degrees then ? If I make it 90 will you be able to return that lip on your tank to 90 with the new bottom in it ? If not, maybe 70 will have to suffice :-k and solder it in as is :-k your choice James
     
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    Split the difference 80 degrees :)
     
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    Can't do anything for couple of weeks though I'm afraid, but should be able to sort that if you can wait a bit
    I'm away next week for a break and got some bits to do when I return for the week after that, is that ok ? If you sort something out in the meantime, then let me know before I start anything ok
     
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    Yeah that great thanks a lot. James.
     
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    This is the burner I was planning on using with it. It is from this 41066[/ATTACH]
     
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    Looking good 8)
     
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    Hi James!

    That's interesting that you used a burner off a gas lamp..thanks for the link, good reading!)...

    Did you decide to just have a go with it???.. :-k

    I see from your other fettling exploits you have used gas burner parts before??..
     
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    Well the design is similar to that used on their Gasoline models (e.g 41067[/ATTACH]
     
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    ....So would I be right in thinking the Gas burner from the [/u]age of it would have been Town Gas?... :-k

    ..Or is that just tooo obvious ???... :)
     
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    In tomorrow's post my friend :thumbup:

    Be sure to show us it all soldered up and working though ok ;)
     
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    The tank with the new base soldered in:

    1461360106-l0.jpg

    And the rim folded-over (this was the hardest part):

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    I added a vapourising coil to the burner to improve the burn with liquid fuel:

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    It works:

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    Great fettling! :thumbup:
     
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    Great job indeed !
     
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    Excellent work, James! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Cheers

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    :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

    Ps... And excellent base-plate making Mr Longilily.

    Cheers

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    excellent James :thumbup: :thumbup:
     
  29. longilily United Kingdom

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    Looking good James :thumbup:

    Thanks for the compliment Tony :thumbup:

    Cheers
     

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