Tilley X246 I think??

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  1. HibbertAllen Israel

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    Hi there I'm sorry to hassel but I have just got my hands on this lamp and I'm planning on restoring it with a few new parts of course and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what made/model it is and what year it could have been made? I'm pretty sure it's a x246 guardsman but there is no stamp anywhere on the base or side to try to find a manufacturer year?? If someone could help it was be greatly appreciated

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    Welcome to CPL @HibbertAllen

    Yes it is a Tilley X246 and should clean up nicely.

    Is there an Owl stamped on the side of the fount?

    As I understand it,Tilley started stamping the founts with the owl in 1954 and date stamping in 1956. I believe that bail connection also coinsided with the Owl stamping.
    Previous to that they were not stamped and only had a decal on the bottom.
     
  3. HibbertAllen Israel

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    No I do not see a stamp anywhere on the fount. I would suspect there was a decal on it but has fallen off. Can I ask what you would recommend painting the fount with or would you rub it back to the copper, there seems to be brass plating on it.
     
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    The fount is brass, not copper and was commonly painted gold.
    If painting, you need to make sure it is fuel resistant. Automotive paint or a fuel resistant enamel.
    There is a lot of discussions regarding paint. Search Results for Query: paint type | Classic Pressure Lamps & Heaters

    A question of paint | Classic Pressure Lamps & Heaters

    Note: the hood is vitreous enamel coated, not paint, and a commercially available paint, capable of withstanding the heat long term hasn't been found.
    If all the components are original, I would say early 1954. but it is possible a previous owner has replaced the cage with a later version or replaced the fount with an earlier version. :-k
     
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    It's great to see another lamp saved from the scrap, welcome to the Forum and
    Congratulations and good luck mate, you have found a Proliferate of information on this Forum.
    You only need to ask a question and someone will help out, the only stupid question is the one not asked.
     
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    Hello and welcome!

    You’ve had good advice already :thumbup:

    Perhaps the hood, burner and control tap came from another lantern as the ones used in the mid 50’s were different .. quite common to see parts switched about to keep a useful light source going :thumbup:
     
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    This is as good as I can get the brass to shine up I think I've done okay, decided not to paint the frame I know it is pitted but I'm trying to keep it as authentic as i can. Just trying to source a brown hood which is near impossible. Thank you for all your replies, cannot wait get it lit
     

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    Some difference
     

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    Good work :thumbup:

    they do come up on ebay from time to time or sometimes it’s easier to buy a whole lamp and keep the rest for spares?
    trouble is that’s how they start to multiply :doh:
     
  11. HibbertAllen Israel

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    yeah I know, I already have another one bought, getting delivered tomorrow ‍;)
     

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