Tilley X246B

Discussion in 'X246B' started by Eddie Bowie, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    Hi.

    I am new to using Tilley lamps, so I am after some advice please.

    I just bought this on E Bay, although I haven't received it yet, & wonder if you can confirm that it is a 1069XA.

    I can't find any reference to that model number.

    You're help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    Edde

    1069c.jpg 1069d.jpg 1069b.jpg 1069a.jpg
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 6, 2019
  2. BigStevie

    BigStevie United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2018
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Scottish Highlands
    Hi Eddie, welcome to the forum. It looks like a Tilley X246B, a pretty bog standard later Tilley. If you’re needing service items for the lamp, click on the link on this site for Fettlebox.
    This model of lamp does the job, though hasn’t the build quality of the earlier Tilleys. Fairly straight forward to fettle in to serviceable condition.
    There should be some numbers stamped on the base, this will give you the age of your lamp.

    Stevie
     
  3. Henry Plews

    Henry Plews Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2014
    Messages:
    879
    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    Hello Eddie and welcome to the forum.
    Your images are too small but I can tell you that your lamp is a model X246B and 1069XA is a date code. It is not known for certain, what the letters mean but we do know that the numbers are a date code which may be of 3 or 4 digits, the first one (or two) indicate the month and the second two indicate the year. Your lamp was made in October, (19)69.

    When your lamp arrives, familiarise yourself with it before adding fuel and trying to light it. Just because something looks good doesn't necessarily mean it is. The rubber seals may have deteriorated and no longer do what they're supposed to so:

    Check that there's no damage to the pump leather and that it's oiled and therefore supple and cabable of building pressure.

    Take off the top complete with burner.

    Make sure there's no fuel in the tank, the pump is screwed in firmly and the valve/cleaning needle control is turned off (clockwise) - there's just short of 3/4 of a turn between 'off' and 'on' so don't force it.

    Give the pump 50 or 60 strokes to get some air into the tank.

    Immerse the lamp in water and check - air bubbles will indicate leaks.

    Seal kits are available from The Fettlebox if needed and plenty of help and advice here so don't be afraid to ask.

    Henry.
     
  4. JEFF JOHNSON

    JEFF JOHNSON United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2010
    Messages:
    8,756
    Location:
    Shetland Islands UK..
    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:
     
  5. Gareth Shepherd United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2019
    Messages:
    32
    Location:
    Chesterfield
    Great advice from @Henry Plews something I always do with a lamp that's new to me.
     
  6. AussiePete

    AussiePete Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    1,486
    Location:
    Toowoomba Australia
    @Eddie Bowie
    Welcome from Queensland Australia.
    When you have got her running you will probably get the urge to find another lantern to fix. Don’t worry, just go with the urge ........ it’s the lampie pox that has blighted us and caused untold hours, days and years of utter enjoyment.
    Hope you’re infected by this wonderful hobby of ours and we see more of you and your restorations.
    Cheers
    Pete
     
  7. ROBBO55

    ROBBO55 Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2014
    Messages:
    1,480
    Location:
    Somersby, New South Wales, Australia
    Welcome to the forum Eddie.
    Now that you know the model use the search facility. There is lots of information about the X246B on the forum.
     
  8. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    Hi all. Many thanks for your quick, honest & helpful replies. My first purchase for it was a mantle. Should I get a full service kit of washers & replace them all, just in case the originals are u/s?
     
  9. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    Hi. Do you mean the dip whole lamp or just the fuel holder?
     
  10. Henry Plews

    Henry Plews Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2014
    Messages:
    879
    Location:
    North Yorkshire
    @Eddie Bowie Personally, I'd check the lantern before ordering parts which you may not need. Regarding the seals, part no. 155 which is the basis of the non return valve (N.R.V. for short, a.k.a.
    check valve) at the bottom of the pump barrel and also on the control cock, comes in two guises. If you look here
    Tilley NRV & Control Cock Valve seal - Pack of 4
    you'll see that the seal is a flat disc which sits in a small brass cup, this is the "old 155" and will not fit your lamp without the brass cup. When your lantern arrives, remove the pump and unscrew carefully the hexagonal nut from the end - there's a spring in there, you will see that the "new 155" is molded to fit directly into the spring so if it's necessary to renew this particular seal, you'll have to look on the internet but make sure you get the correct type.


    Once you've removed the hood & burner and glass (and wire cage if you like), it's up to you whether you go for total immersion or not. Either way, do include the control cock and try it in both 'off' and 'on' positions.

    Henry.
     
  11. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    IMG_20191106_182229.jpg IMG_20191106_182236.jpg IMG_20191106_175845.jpg IMG_20191106_182314.jpg IMG_20191106_182250.jpg IMG_20191106_175856.jpg IMG_20191106_182242.jpg
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 12, 2019
  12. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    This is it.
     
  13. ColinG

    ColinG United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    1,965
    It looks to be in very good condition and very little used. With some new seals and some TLC along the lines suggested above, you'll have it working in no time.
     
  14. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    I have managed to change most of the seals that come with the Tilley service kit. I am having difficulty with the one on the control knob. I read somewhere on here that it is an anti clockwise turn. If that is the case what is the best method to remove it cos it's a tad tight?
     
  15. Tony Press

    Tony Press Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2012
    Messages:
    4,866
    Location:
    Stinkpot Bay, Howden, Tasmania, Australia
    On the X246B the black knob should pull off.

    Then the knurled packing nut unscrews anticlockwise.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  16. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    Thanks Tony. So this knob pulls off?[​IMG]is just pu
     
  17. ColinG

    ColinG United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    1,965
    To be precise, this part...

    Tilley control knob.jpg
     
  18. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
    Hi all. Job complete. Just waiting for the meths burning torch thingamajig to turn up from Tilley. Again, thanks for your help. I will hopefully post a pic of it working in the not too distant future. Eddie
     
  19. David Shouksmith

    David Shouksmith United Kingdom Founder Member

    Offline
    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    6,652
    Location:
    North-East England
    For next time, put the jaws of some fine-nose pliers between the black knob and gland nut, either side of the shaft - there's no need to grip it. Advance the pliers into the gap so that they fill it snugly and then wiggle them sideways to push off the knob. It takes about two seconds - simple... :thumbup: :D
     
  20. ColinG

    ColinG United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2017
    Messages:
    1,965
    Nice trick there David!
     
  21. Eddie Bowie United Kingdom

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2019
    Messages:
    12
    Location:
    Norfolk
  22. Alex Smith

    Alex Smith United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2019
    Messages:
    136
    Location:
    Midlands, UK
    Nice lamp, good work. You must be pleased.
     
  23. AussiePete

    AussiePete Australia Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    1,486
    Location:
    Toowoomba Australia
    Well done. It looks good, now to the next one .....
    Cheers
    Pete
     
  24. BigStevie

    BigStevie United Kingdom Subscriber

    Offline
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2018
    Messages:
    649
    Location:
    Scottish Highlands
    Looks good Eddie, you must be chuffed. So, have you caught the bug?

    Stevie
     

Share This Page