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Discussion in 'Pressure Lamp Discussion Forum' started by presscall, Oct 9, 2017.

  1. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom Subscriber

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    For THIS Lilor butane-fuelled lamp I used what I judged to be the correct mantle, which was the Veritas #6831 pictured here.

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    I've a stock of #95 'Instaclip' mantles for a Coleman Northstar lantern

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    I bent the wire clip to form a mantle hanging loop - the one on the left.

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    Hooked up, clip at the bottom gripping the lamp riser tube and ready to fire.

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    The distinctive 'concertina' form of the Coleman mantle coped well with the shrinkage and the output is pleasing. Best of all, a fraction of the price of the new-old stock Veritas mantle.

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    John
     
  2. Henry Plews

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    An excellent improvisation which has got me thinking. I just might see if I can achieve a similar result on a Petrolite lamp which I have.

    Henry.
     
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    @Henry Plews
    I hope that works, Henry. Let us know how it goes.

    The intention in bending the top clip into shape - as well as creating a hanging loop - is to constrict the top opening as much as possible to 'bag' the burning fuel and ensure uniform illumination bottom-to-top without a flame spike emerging that hasn't sufficiently heated/illuminated the top part of the mantle.

    The Veritas mantle developed a crack in it after a couple of firings (its age can't have helped) and I quickly removed it and retired it to its box as a shelf collectable. The Coleman mantle is comparatively much more durable, before and after firing.

    John
     
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    @presscall

    A bit of hair spray on your Veritas mantle might help hold it together.

    I just sprayed my camping lantern mantles in preparation for a long road trip.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
  5. presscall

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    I've never had the bouffant to require hair spray Tony, especially these days!

    Seriously, a good tip I've heard of but the price of those NOS Veritas mantles, from a couple of sources, is prohibitively expensive to justify their use for anything other than a static (unlit) display. 15GBP I paid for one, three pounds something for two of the Coleman tubular mantles.

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    @presscall

    My 'Elvis' days are over as well, but my daughter was a competition gymnast so there is residual hair spray still in the house.

    I was thinking more of the spray keeping together your recently used one with the crack in it while stored on the shelf...

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Well you are lucky, you can spray used and unused mantles. One thning though: keep a safe spra distance or your mantle sticks to the wall.
    Been there, seen it.
     
  9. Henry Plews

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    @presscall
    I will, though it may be while as I've only just put it on the lamp fettling list.
    It's years since I last had it lit and the few remaining drops of unleaded petrol have gone to a very sticky varnish, so a good cleaning is needed.

    Henry.
     
  10. Conny C

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    John - nice use of the Coleman mantle!

    Henry -
    Good luck with the fettling of the Petrolite lamp. I think I used the Aladdin upright gas mantle in my try of my Notkin (Petrolite type) lamp years ago.
    Good light and it functioned very well; and not that expensive as the old Veritas type gas mantles.

    /Conny

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  11. paul m

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    Somewhere i have a box of Petrolite mantles...
     
  12. Henry Plews

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    @Conny C
    I have had the Petrolite working but it was a long time ago. It just needs a good clean and a new mantle - in fact, I've got some of it soaking in a cleaner / de-greaser as I type.

    I've used an Aladdin type mantle "modified to fit Welsbach #4 upright and Reflex #107" with success but it didn't last very long. I've also used a N.O.S. "ZEIMAR" upright gas mantle but had the same experience as @presscall .
     
  13. Henry Plews

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    @paul m If you find them, I would be interested in one, or at least an image or two (including the box) with dimensions.

    Henry.
     
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    A tip from 1914 on how to kelp preserve your mantles.



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    An excellent use for a Coleman Northstar mantle!:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    @paul m -I would also be interested in Petrolite mantles, if you find any
     

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