Vapalux Lamp Dating- Help

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  1. Gary Waller

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    Can anyone help in dating a Vapalux lamp I picked up over the weekend, I thought it may be a 1940s RAF model but there are no markings on the gallery except a serial number - RD 839212.
    It appears the have an early metal tap knob that I done have on any of my other Vapalux/ Bialaddin lamps.
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    @Gary Waller, welcome to CPL

    Hi, several ,"old" features on this lantern: air buttons, large filler cap. What metal is the fount made from?

    Nominate @Ian Ashton on this question.

    Regards, Jeremy
     
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    With a pressure tit and that brass control it's likely 1941-1942. ::Neil::
     
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    If you clean the top, you may find a date stamp on the rim. Here's an example from 1943.

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    Henry.
     
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    Well that would date the hood well enough but not the rest of the lantern.

    Given that these were commonly serviced by the military in batches and virtually all the parts are interchangeable, it's almost certain they're 'bitsa' lanterns - bitsa this and bitsa that. It follows that it probably no longer has a discrete date of manufacture - early 1940s, as Neil suggests...
     
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    Quite right and I should have mentioned that in my post.

    Henry.
     
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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:
     
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    Missed that! New spectacles coming next week!
     
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    Hi
    Many thanks for the replies.
    The gallery is brass but has no other markings on it.
     
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    Last I heard, Ian had sold his collection and was no longer in the hobby. In any case, I very much doubt he'd be able to give you a better date than Neil... :)
     
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    Many thanks, I’ll hopefully get around to fettling it shortly.
     
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    David’s quite right about it being a bitsa, that’s an E41 with a 300 hood. Looking at the dents, I think it’s safe to say that’s a brass tank, steel E41’s I believe are more scarce than brass ones.
     
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    Hi
    I have just checked and the tank is steel not brass.
     
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    Ooo, well that is special then. Get it cleaned up, sort out the solder around the pump and keep an eye out for the proper top. You’ll have a nice lamp in the end.
     
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    So generally the consensus is a E41 base, with a later 300 hood, early 1940s..
    I’ll hopefully get around to sorting soon as it will make a nice lamp, I do like the early vapalux.
    Many thanks.
     
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    Finally got around to giving this a well deserved fettle, a few points I noted during the work.
    - Hood stamped RD838212
    - All steel tank
    - Not sure about the filler cap or brass tap with arrow on
    - Frame, top and bottom collars steel, vertical supports brass. Marked PAT no 540783


    Turned out a bit too blue than planned, but hopefully it will last another 70 years...

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    I have a Vapalux 300 dated 1943, and made of steel; however, mine has a pressure tit so it seems I have a 1943 top but probably a later tank. Any thoughts?
     
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    Hi
    I’m not sure I also have a lamp with a 1943 marked hood and a brown lamp with no date on the hood both have pressure tits.
     
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    Hummmm.... I wonder..:-k
     

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