Yale model T

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  1. Steve p

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    Picked up this lamp last weekend. Sadly, it's been electrified. I'm hoping to restore it if the correct parts can be found.
    It's missing the fuel valve, fuel plug and part of the burner assembly. Not sure if the burner was the same as on the model U lamp or not. The fount has been drilled but that can be fixed. The shade and the holder assembly are super nice.. The bead work is not original. I'm guessing these were put on about the time it was electrified. Glass beads for sure. I've taken them off as the thread was getting badly worn and beads were coming off. The beads were mounted to a cotton binding tape and stitched to the shade edge. Would really like to get this going again.
    Anyone have an example of this lamp? Thanks for looking. IMG_20200215_49593.jpg IMG_20200215_43217.jpg IMG_20200215_49500.jpg IMG_20200215_21923.jpg IMG_20200215_12144.jpg
     
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    Welcome from Queensland Australia
    You’re on the right forum for help and advice.
    Cheers
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    Nice find. Yale Colonial and Utility (T & U Types) are pretty much the same and share all the working parts. Here is a parts diagram from Yale catalogue 34 which is about 1912-1913. ::Neil::

    !!Yale-T and U parts.jpg
     
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    An excellent restoration project!:thumbup:
     
  6. Steve p

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    Graham, here is the problems on the fount I have to deal with. The center hole I will have to make or adapt a part with internal pipe threadsto match the pickup tube. Then I will need to solder that in place. The other small hole can be Tig welded shut. I have a friend who is an expert with this welding process. Finding the parts I will need to complete the lamp may not be so easy. A note on the fount. This is a large diameter fount. Measuring just short of 10 inches in diameter. The handle on this lamp is hollow and there is not a separate pick up tube running inside like most other lamps I have worked on. IMG_20200220_5406.jpg
     
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    Neil, thank you for sharing this parts list. Very helpful. I have seen pictures of the model U with both a curved air tube and a straight airtube. Was Yale using parts they had on hand? Not sure how long they made these lamp models. Your info says 1913 or 14. They were bought by Coleman in 1919? Is that correct?

    Pete and Jeff, thank you for your comments.

    Thanks
    Steve
     
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    Looking at the drawings it looks like that is how it is supposed to be, just a hollow handle. That means you don't have to worry about finding a fuel pipe for the handle, just as you say, for the tank.

    That is a nice lamp Steve, I agree with you that the holes don't pose a problem and once soldered the lamp will be perfectly safe.
     
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    Yale and Coleman merged in 1914 and these Yale types T and U are the earlier Yale designs. After 1914 Yale lamps were pretty well all Coleman designs with some modifications.

    In any run of lamp production you can expect variations. Unless the lamps are date marked it can be near impossible to determine when any changes were made. You can't rely on dated catalogues or advertising because they all too often used older images. These Yale lamps were made for a few years. I would guess at a start date around 1909-10 and a finish in 1914 although there would have been sales after the merger of existing stock from both faxctory and dealers. ::Neil::
     
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    Matty, now that I see the parts list drawing I see that the tube is hollow. The list calls it a fuel tube. It just seems odd that the tube is so large in diameter and when operating the lamp it would be full of fuel. Just makes it more interesting.
    The fount looks in great shape inside. The fuel filler hole is small. Maybe 5/8 diameter.
    Neil, thank you for the history of the company. Very early lamp then. I knew the lamp was something special when I first saw it. The search is on for parts.
    Thanks
    Steve
     
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    Very nice lamp there Steve, someone must have the parts needed to restore this great lamp.
     
  12. Steve p

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    Thanks Dean. I hope to find the parts I need. I've found the fuel plug for it so far.
     
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    Steve, what a great find good luck with the restoration. That shade is to die for, pity about the fringe I always think these beaded fringes just finish off a shade beautifully.
     

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