Maybe a Diamond lamp

Saw this and just had to get it for a closer look. Looks like the Diamond (not Akron) in the PLC.

 

The burner head certainly looks like a Diamond Light Co. This is the only example of this lamp I know of.



It doesn't have that vertical control though so the complete lamp would not be the same as Jon's lamp I have listed in the PLC.
The company only existed for about three years from 1910 to 1913 so any examples are going to be rare. An interesting find though and one I wouldn't have passed by either. ::Neil::

 

This one does.

 

Wow, that surely looks like it.

 

Boy, these lamps must be as rare as hen's teeth!

 

A lucky find!

 

Not only does it look like it - it is it.

 

Very nice, @Dean D.

Cheers

Tony

 

It's progressing!

 

I assume the ad cut is for a Diamond lamp? That tank is the type used by AGM, Brite-Light and several other brands for the P66 type lamps. ::Neil::

 

That's what I thought.

 

Neil, the last picture I posted is how the lamp was posted for sale, it was taken apart for shipping as in the first pictures without the fount show.
There are no markings on the bottom of the fount.
It's very interesting how the pricker rod threads into the jet where it enters the mixing chamber and nothing is broken and it came apart easily.

 

Dean. So it has a pricker as well? Be interesting to see the detail sometime. Is the fuel flow OK? I have had a couple of those tanks with a blocked feed and they can require major surgery to clear. ::Neil::

 

Neil, yes pricker is intact and everything it clear.
I will get some pictures of the pricker and jet and will post.

 

Also Stanleys ??

 

Pictures of the pricker and jet.

 

The burner / pricker assembly is very interesting. Nice that it's all intact. Look forward to seeing it burning sometimes. Good luck with it Dean.

 

Correct, the ad is a Diamond Light Co ad.

I particularly like the fact that you said the tank is one used by AGM rather than saying it is an AGM tank.

 

I would have been surprised if there were any markings other than a soldered badge.

 

I would have thought so, they're re-badged AGM.

 

Stanleys had stampings/badges?

 

Sure they did. The only one I know of without is the chandelier. Soldered onto the base. ::Neil::

 

You can add my wall lamp (in the style of the piano lamp) to your list. Mine came from the UK but didn't have a badge on it and there isn't any sign it ever had a badge on it.

Thanks for showing that badge, it is pretty cool.

 

@Mackburner
I meant to put this in my previous post.

 

Yes I know you have a bracket lamp without a label but I would assume that was an AGM sale rather than a Stanleys. I have seen one or two where the label was lost but the rectangular solder mark was visible. I don't know if AGM actually made a wall lamp as a direct sale model. There are none listed in any catalogues we have. However it could just be possible that some were sold in the UK by another retailer that I am not aware of. Your unmarked bracket lamp is a mystery for sure. ::Neil::

 

I have never seen evidence of AGM selling the wall lamps we are speaking of.

I suspect that is a distinct possibility. I'm not confident it was American Gas Machine that was producing these lamps.

Mine, apart from no label ever being attached, I think also differs to known Stanley ones in another area. Mine has a bracket attached on the base plate that has a slot where you hang it on a nail or whatever. Mine doesn't have feet. I *think* Stanley ones have a hook that screws into the rim at the base of the tank and also has two feet so the lamp is stable when sitting on a bench/table.

I have mulled over these small but quite noticeable alterations from lamp to lamp or retailer to retailor, not just AGM type lamps but other GPA companies products too. I *think* the answer could be in case of an accident or some kind of disaster where the lamp causes property damage or harms a person. The small but obvious alterations may be so a retailer of 'that lamp' can be identified if litigation is to ensue. I personally think that is a very real possibility as to why the alterations took place. Remember, soldered labels do and did fall off accidentally. Soldered labels would most certainly be parted from the lamp if a blaze was to occur that caused significant damage. Using soldered on labels is not a good way to try and keep track of whom sold the lamp.

 

This particular tank appears on P66 type lamps by Standard-Gilette, Nulite, AGM, L.M. Taylor, Incandescent Light & Supply and Economy Gas that I know of and likely by others as well. You certainly can't determine a manufacturer from the founts. It is often possible to determine a brand though because in most cases the burner head is marked. ::Neil::

 

Typing from memory, I think Windhorst, Tures and Sun Gas all used this tank too.

I thought I'd mention for the casual reader or those not familiar with the earlier wall lamps were were discussing, the above lamps are different to the wall lamps when trying to determine manufacturer. As you mention, the table lamps can be sorted by manufacturer because of the different burners they employed.

The wall lamps we spoke about earlier aren't so simple. They generally have the same burner, it is just minor cosmetic alterations that are found. So, knowing a Quirks from a Stanleys from an as yet unidentified retailer makes it far harder to be confident of knowing whom both manufactured and retailed the lamps.

I know many don't like to hear this but I do think that initially, a specialist fount manufacturer, manufactured all the AGM type founts for all the GPA brands. I am more than happy to agree that AGM eventually took control of manufacturing their own tanks but initially, I believe is is highly doubtful.

That can be said of the Coleman, Nulite and so called Gloria range of founts too.

 

[QUOTE="Matty, post: 142386, member: 2056

I know many don't like to hear this but I do think that initially, a specialist fount manufacturer, manufactured all the AGM type founts for all the GPA brands. I am more than happy to agree that AGM eventually took control of manufacturing their own tanks but initially, I believe is is highly doubtful.

That can be said of the Coleman, Nulite and so called Gloria range of founts too.[/QUOTE]
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I agree, there are also several clues that the possibility exists some founts from these spinning vendor(s) could have been sourced as a shell with / or without baseplate and bungs that could be assembled and soldered by the lamp companies as per their own specs.

Larry