Tilley R1 (?) newbie with my first heater

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  1. David Shouksmith

    David Shouksmith India Founder Member

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    You were talking about touching the back of the reflector to demonstrate it becomes only warm, Henry. No-one would be happy to touch the front of the reflector, surely. That's all I was saying. Sheesh...

    (Gallic shrug and wanders off shaking his head).
     
  2. Tony Press

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    @Henry Plews

    You may well be right, Henry.

    My observation, correctly stated, is that I’ve never seen a copper faced reflector that has been lacquered, even though I’ve cleaned a few.

    I’ll check my unfettled ones and see, but I think they are mainly plated.

    I might clear coat one and see what happens.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Hum.. I think the older ones may have been lacquered or coated with something (oil?).. even only if from new?

    Just makes sense as even a few spots of moisture would cause discolouration fairly quickly? :-k
     
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    Out to the shed, Tony!
     
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    I’ve been in the shed...

    Aside from the copper/brass-faced reflectors I’ve restored in the past that showed no signs of lacquer, the ones in the shed don't, either:

    Reflector 1:
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    Reflector 2:
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    Reflector 3.
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    Reflector 4.
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    The above observations don’t mean that the reflector cannot be clear coated. I just haven’t seen it.

    Cheers

    Tony

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  6. Henry Plews

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    The more I thought about this, the more I became convinced that I'd seen a lacquered reflector. Boy did this one take some digging out.

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  7. Henry Plews

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    @Tony Press Interesting preheater torch on "Reflector 4." Is it KAYEN ?
     
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    @Henry Plews , no the reflectors are different like this photo, smaller around the control cock valve.
    First photo Kayen.
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    Second photo Tilley.
     
  9. Henry Plews

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    @Buggerlugs

    When I mentioned KAYEN, I was referring specifically to the TORCH, not the heater.
     
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    @Henry Plews, my fault i didn't have my glasses on, you said torch i thought you said reflector.
    Whoops i must remember to wear them.
     
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    @Buggerlugs, no worries. My question about the torch was an afterthough, perhaps if I'd asked it BEFORE posting images of the reflector, confusion would have been avoided.
     
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    @Henry Plews

    I’ve also got an R1 with a lacquered reflector.
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    @Henry Plews, not your fault I should wear my glasses before I say anything..
     
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    @BigStevie, see what happens to the lacquered reflector that's why i said dont waste your time or money.
     
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    To be fair, that reflector is getting on 70 years old at it's youngest. I think it's held-up rather well.
     
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    @Henry Plews, that's a great point you make there mate, I have 5 R1 complete plus 3 in parts and none of mine have ever been lacquered.
     
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    @Henry Plews

    This question is based on nothing but ignorance(!)

    We’re the reflectors lacquered or not depending on age of manufacture or even perhaps their intended market?
     
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    @Henry Plews

    Thanks for the confirmation that some reflectors are lacquered.

    I’ll post that ore-heater separately. It was in that Tilley heater, but it’s not a Tilley pre-heater. It’s from Australia, but I have no proof it’s Kayen. If I post it, it might flush some more out.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Well, yes, they were - but not clear-coated.

    And I notice some of the copper lacquer behind the mantle appears to have deteriorated, perhaps with the heat, I don't know... :-k
     

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