I found this last summer in South Yorkshire but only got it on the workbench a few weeks ago. It was in remarkably good condition and can’t have seen much use over the years. The globe is completely unmarked so wondering if that is likely a replacement. It had a complete strip down and clean (vinegar, Autosol and Mother’s) and ran the vapouriser through the ultrasonic cleaner, before rebuilding with a new needle. I was almost caught out by the left hand thread on the nrv and it had me stumped for a while before discovering the issue. The hood still has a blue tint to the metal, which I quite like. Really pleased with this one, great quality lamp and love the BAT logo on the fount.
Great find, and in beautiful condition. Top job on the fettle, it's running well. I ran my bat51 last weekend, it was an absolute pleasure to play with, one thing I did though was to put some stuffing from an old Tilley pre heater in the meths dish. I found even when full it could be tricky to get the match to light it, with something sticking up much easier. Enjoy your great find James
This type of generator and a label on the lower cage rim do not appear on GDR post war lamps. It's most likely a pre war export of HASAG, so 1937 could be right. Yours is a very fine example. Matthias
That reference on the literature is 6, 37. Which I assumed to be June 1937 as the date of manufacture.
The designation "Foreign" was introduced to England in 1938 for german goods. Shipments that were marked neither with "Made in Germany"nor with "Foreign " were not processed in Great Britain and returned. Reinhard
@Scott D The newspaper article I got the information from is dated March 12,1938.The manual is dated June 1937.I think you can narrow it down to 1937 or 1938. Does the lamp have a mark on the bottom of the tank?
Cut for me some words, I wanted to say so this is German answer for Swiss Hasag 551. These are almost the same shape and same time...
Sorry, I'm a bit confused, I thought so Bat is post war name for communist Germany, blow lamps, stoves and lanterns...
The BAT brand was quite well known long before the war, not (only) for pressure lanterns, but mostly for wick lamps and lanterns. Hasag bought this brand and used it because it was well established, in particular for foreign markets. So they sold their model 51A pressure lantern under the BAT brand name, but also e. g. under the brand Sunflower (for Socony = Standard Oil Company NY) and others. After the war, in the GDR, the BAT brand was further used by VEB Sturmlaternenwerk Beierfeld, where they first produced among others the well known BAT wick storm lanterns, but also blow lamps and stoves. After the production of pressure lanterns (brand name Hasag) was transferred from VEB Leuchtenbau Leipzig to VEB Sturmlaternenwerk Beierfeld in 1962, they also released the BAT 270 pressure lantern. Before the war, Eugen Schatz in Zug/Switzerland mostly sold and labeled pressure lanterns from various manufacturers (and also many Hasag lanterns) under his own name or under the name Hasaglicht Zug. Some of them he also modified slightly. After the war, in addition to trading in other manufacturers' lanterns, he began making his own lanterns, for which he used parts from various manufacturers. The Hasag 551L / 551LD have a Ditmar tank and collar, and some of the upper parts were supplied by VEB Leipziger Werke. He also had some parts such as the vaporizers, mixing tubes and burners, and the preheaters manufactured by suppliers in Switzerland. Later on, Meinrad Aschwanden (a former employee of Eugen Schatz) took over the business from Eugen Schatz. @Scott D Great lantern, and well saved. You are lucky, and I'm a bit jealous.
Thank You Martin for bunch of informations, I was looking for them but not too much found, I'm owner of 12 hasag and mewa lanterns various types but acknowledge is not very big even thou I'm giving history lessons of pressure lamps... Last question, how it happened so name hasag which disappeared in Germany for collaboration with nazi government, could be used without restrictions in Switzerland? This is what I can not understand...
Trademark rights and patents are national issues. Therefore, a trademark or patent must be filed separately in each country for which there is a market worth protecting. That is also why the brand name Hasag could continue to be used in Switzerland (by Eugen Schatz for his lanterns) and in Austria (for sofa furniture) after the war. However, Schatz probably did not really advertise his lamps with the brand name Hasag. To my impression the brand name in Switzerland seemed to be rather a synonym for pressure lanterns in general, like e. g. Hoover for vacuum cleaners in UK. In West Germany, the brand name Hasag was registered/protected even after the war (in 1950 by Heinz Brettschneider Ulm), which probably led to some disputes with the GDR. Therefore, some lamps were not marked at all or with the name Gasah, but these are the very fewest. However, it seems that VEB Leuchtenbau Leipzig was not really impressed by the trademark disputes. In the Federal Republic of Germany, which saw itself as the legal successor to the "3rd German Reich" (of course together with the German Democratic Republic), the brand name Hasag was indeed probably no longer something that anyone would have wanted to advertise with, due to the company's involvement in the war. This legal succession was also always rejected by the GDR, which saw itself as an independent state on German soil.
Hi Scott, attached a scan of the Iron monger from 1938. A couple of years ago I got it from Neil. With him I have had many discussions about the VEB Leipziger Werke and his successor company the VEB Leuchtenbau. Kind regards Jörg
