Petromax unfired

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  1. Migwar Lebanon

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    Hello everyone,

    One guy sent me the below pictures, he is selling this lantern, and he told me that he thinks the lantern was unfired. Expecting additional pictures once he gets back to his village. And he doesn't also know the exact model.

    I believe from the pictures, it is unfired, definitely will know more once I receive more pictures.

    I missed before a clean unfired lantern (link below). And not willing to miss this one.
    Petromax unknown to me


    Any kind hints would be appreciated, so to seal a deal.

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  2. WimVe

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    Dear @Migwar ,

    It depends on what you want and expect.
    For me Petromax doesn't exist after closing production in Altena. So if you want an original petromax its elimanates the Chinese and portugese productions.

    The globe is of Pelam so not original and the text is rather crude on the tank which may indicate an Asian fake.
    These fake lanterns turn up every now and then.
    For the rest does it seem to be unfired indeed.
     
  3. Migwar Lebanon

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    Thank you @WimVe if it is a fake I will drop it. If it was a clone (clear different brand imitating it) I would have taken it then.
     
  4. Wim

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    Is this not one of the "new" Pmaxes made in China nowadays? Not really a "fake" then, but quality not to the standard of the originals at all.:roll:
    One can compare this with the Col-Max, the first, Canadian made ones are of much better quality than the later, Chinese made ones (but they were a lot cheaper....)
     
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    The one in the link 'Petromax unknown to me' is genuine.

    The one in your picture above is certainly a modern China-made unit. The contours and curves on the frame/cage/collar are indicating that to me. The glass globe with the 'P' logo is also modern. Stampings on the fount are rather ill-defined, not like the original/older German-made ones.
    The blue pricker control wheel is new too. The material might not be exactly like what had been used on the older Petromaxes. The blue pigments aren't the same as the original type. These modern blue ones don't turn darker or turn brown or blackish even after aging or prolonged exposure to light/air...unlike the originals. I do have a piece of China-made pricker wheel set.
    I can't comment much on the overall quality of the modern China-made Petromax, but they are certainly very different from the original German Petromax.
     
  6. Migwar Lebanon

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    Thank you for the details @MYN and for the important information @Wim I will not buy it. I have a bargain now on a Geniol 135 in great condition but price is somehow high will share pictures later.
     
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    Well I wondered this too but since I don't have one I can't check. What would be strange then is the use of the Graetz logo.
    Maybe someone can tell who owns it now.
    It was a family coat of arms.
     
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    This is a Pelam Petromax.The parts come mainly from China.They have been fully assembled since 2007 in Magdeburg/Germany.You can see clearly the P in the glass cylinder.The P stands for Pelam.The quality was significantly better compared to the Chinese Petromax predecessor lamps.The hood is put on the wrong way around,so I can't see whether the J-tube still has an adjusting screw.These Petromax from China usually shine brighter than the predecessors from Germany and Portugal because the jet bores are larger.The lamp is no longer of the same quality as its European predecessors,but I don't want to bad mouth it either.
     
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    I'd believe that the modern Petromax sold by Pelam or Petromax GmbH should of decent quality, despite having a lot of parts being made in China.
    If it is easily available to you at reasonable prices, I don't see any bad in buying at least one.
     

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