Right size of die for Coleman 249 burner tube help needed.

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  1. Piotrek

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    Dears,
    I have to fix the 1950 Canadian Coleman 249 burner tube. The threading on one side is damaged. I am looking for a correct die to fix that thread. I am not an expert in tap and die subject and definitely totally green in those in not metric system.
    The external diameter of tube is approx. 14,3mm so close to 1/2”. Thread is pretty dense – approx. 25 threads per inch. Die descriptions/parameters differs a lot (UNC, unf, unef, pipe thread, not pipe thread etc.). so I am lost.
    I have found in Poland a tap and die set 1/2'' 28 threads per inch (unef) for approx. 40$ so not cheap at all and I am still not sure if that would be the correct set.
    I would be grateful to get info as to what exactly should I buy.

    All the best,
    Piotrek
    ps. Please be so kind and do not ask who and how damaged that tube :oops:


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    @Piotrek

    I have some NOS and used pieces of that Coleman tube, but I need to know what the length of the tube is to make sure I’ve got the correct piece (if you want me to supply it to you).

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    What would be useful is:

    Total length (mm)
    Length of bottom thread (that fits the burner cap)
    Length of top thread (that fits the cast burner).

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Thank you.
    @Pancholoco1911 - it is good to know, but shipping to Poland is 20$ + VAT and + custom tax will make 30$ of shipping costs and no fun from "regular, boring shopping".
    @Tony Press - first I will try to find a die and have some fun with fettling, but I will bear in mind that I can count on your help - thank you. I even checked where the hell Tasmania is, and any connection from Poland (the well known center of the whole world :lol: ) to that land seems like an exotic adventure :content: Before any transcontinental shipping, I will also have to check if any other parts are needed: I have to put back the needle and reassemble generator, silver solder pre-heater cup etc. Those springy wires from inside of the generator gave me a memorable lesson already while digging them out, cleaning and reshaping... So it gets personal with that cute little lamp, that I bought by stupid mistake based on unclear pictures, thinking that this is 242K model from Norway :lol:
    Dies are small and my wife does not know how many of them I have, so I will post some updates what fits and what not.

    all the best,
    Piotrek
     
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    @Piotrek
    If I'm not wrong, the threads on the Coleman 249 burner tube should measure 9/16" in diametre with 27 tpi thread pitch and 60° thread angle.
    That'd mean the size would be 9/16 - 27 UNS. (Unified Special Thread series).
    I can neither remember the length of the threads at both ends of the tube nor the length of the burner tube itself.
     
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    Thank you @MYN . 9/16 - 27 - fits my measurements the most, so it is ordered already. I will post the result :)
     
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    I have been to Poland once, in 2001, for a meeting. I stayed in Warsaw and didn’t get to see much outside of the city, but I enjoyed Warsaw very much.

    A person I went to school with moved to Poland many years ago (1980s), married a Polish woman, and I’ve not seen him since.

    Cheers

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    @Tony Press - if you ever plan to visit Europe and Poland again, you can be my guest in Warsaw. This is official and there are plenty of witnesses here :) You would better buy some Petromax and Hasag lamps before in Poland. I can be a keeper and you can bring them back to Australia after the visit. That is what I do with friends in Norway from time to time - on the plane my baggage is full of lamps when I fly home after every holiday and the subject Coleman 249 was one of them :)

    By the way 1980s must have been an "interesting" period in Poland for your friend, because in 1981 a martial law was declared in Poland. Hopefully Polish wife was a decent reward for such a trip:
    BBC News | Sunday 13 December 1981 (youtube.com)
     
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    I can confirm that 9/16 - 27 UNS is the right die.
    Thanks a lot for help.
    Piotrek
     
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    It is good reassurance. It is still a standard size for this one.
     

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