Tilley TL model # verification needed

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What is this Tilley model #

Poll closed May 14, 2020.
  1. TL-106

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  2. TL-21

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  3. TL-116

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  4. Other Tilley model #

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  5. FRANKENLAMP

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  6. Accessories make a bare stock model # difference

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  1. hillcrosslanes

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    Just received this lamp. It is my first Tilley.
    It looks to me like a Tilley TL-106 or 116 "pork pie" but was sold as a "TL-21 pork pie".

    I really like the lamp and don't mind the possible mislabeling but, I would like to know the actual model # for possible addition to my antique collection insurance policy.
    Is there such a lamp as a TL-21, is this another model like a TL-106, 116 or is it a mishmash Frankenlamp?

    The burner is heavy with patent # on top and knurled ring midway on burner body.
    It has a bi-wedged "bishop hat" type heat deflector.
    The gallery has the 3 pull spring tabs to lock in the Tilley stamped clear glass globe and also a milk glass shade.
    The pressure pip works properly and the font has the wide, Tilley Table Lamp logo on the bottom.
    The control valve looks to be the pop off knob short version.
    All seals and washers have been replaced with new.

    Any additional ID and/or manufacture date info would be helpful.
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  2. Jean J

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    Looks like a pork pie TL106 with a very desirable early silent burner and Post war shade. Nice lamp.
     
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    Thank you for the compliment.
    That was what I was thinking too, a 106. I could not find any information regarding a "TL-21" to even see what lamp, if any, it looked like to compare this lamp to.

    Thanks for the information, very appreciated.
     
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    @hillcrosslanes

    When you are up to it, could you post some detailed photos of the burner, please?

    Cheers

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    I’ve seen those before, they’re a flat piece of brass cut and bent like batwing parts. They sit in the top of a standard table lamp gallery to give the look of a batwing. I think they come from Taiwan but I can’t seem to find them now.
     
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    @Matthew92

    You point to what I was wondering: are they the wings I’ve seen on the bay of evil?

    Cheers

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    Here are the burner close up as requested. Sorry for the tarnish, it was as shiny as the rest of the lamp before I burnt in the mantle and fired it up, I promise! Lol 20200507_194726.jpg 20200507_194659.jpg 20200507_194802.jpg 20200507_195006.jpg 20200507_195143.jpg 20200507_195237.jpg
     
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    Thank you. That “batwing” is a modern addition.

    It’s a fine lamp.

    Don’t say sorry about the tarnish. ;) These lamps are meant to be lit.

    Cheers

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    I have seen the heat deflectors of that shape too. Although this lamp of mine came from somewhat close here in the U.S.
    I think you can find the source of the heat deflectors in Korea. Try a search for "Blue Sun" or "BlueSun" gas lamp shop & repair on youtube. Lots of how to and repair videos, I think I saw them in videos from that channel.
    I know he sells international on E-Bay... almost bought a nice reconditioned Tilley lantern you can see being reconditioned on the youtube channel there but, I ultimately bought this lamp here from another source.
     
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    Thanks for the additional Info on the deflector.
    Should I go ahead and assume the preheater cup is a modern innovative addition as well or did the TL-106 have those available initially when first offered for sale?

    Thanks again!
     
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    The preheater is a modern addition, also.

    This Tilley clip on lighting torch (or variation thereof) is the original lighter:

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    Ah, the meths jar and sadistic dentist's appliance! Lol
    Thanks for the info. I was bot sure about the slide-over preheater cup. Although I read a bit about them, this is my first venture into Tilley lamps.
    I know the cup that came with mine was in too good of shape to possibly be original old stock.

    Now I can quit wondering, Thanks again!
     
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    I like those priming cups. I’ve a few from various sources.

    Cheers

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    I didn’t look closely enough at that ‘batwing’ and it’s so obvious to me now. I’ve seen some of those on lamps on eBay, no doubt catching out old and blind people like me!
     
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    The model number for these is complicated and as presented this one is not right as Tilley never sold it like that. Model TL106 is the correct basic lamp number which has the opal shade but no inner glass 182 globe. The same lamp with 182 globe but no opal shade is model TL116. Tilley also sold the same lamp with both 182 globe and opal shade and upper and lower insect shields as model TL116IP. So it's a TL106 with a 182 added or a TL116 with a shade added or a TL116IP missing the insect protection. Pedantic I know but those are the model numbers Tilley gave for the variations of this tall pork pie table lamp. A very nice example by the way. Below the first three pages of the instruction leaflet for this lamp which gives the model numbers and explains the variations. ::Neil::
     

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