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  1. Neighbor Al

    Neighbor Al Denmark Subscriber

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    Saw this on eBay and gave into the minimum offer ($49.99). I guess it's mine now! I've been waiting for one of these "classic" models based on the discussions regarding the more contemporary offerings from Tilley. It sounds like it will need a new globe, but that can happen in time...

    I MUST STOP for a while since the car needs new brakes! :doh:

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  2. Carlsson

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    Don't mind the car! As long as it runs, it's OK. The brakes are secondary, and to spend the money on an old Tilley instead only show good sense of priority. :lol:

    It looks good, that old Guardsman, from what you can see on that image.
    The hood looks like it's unusually well preserved.
     
  3. mr optimus

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    Hi Al congratulations on your first Guardsman lamp this model realy is a well made lamp better than the 246B stormlight i have one of each and at present restoring my Guardsman,i noticed not only does the Guardsman tank look so much better it is heavier so it is made of a thicker gauge brass making it more robust i all so like the control cok and pump being made of brass and the valve/cleaning needle knob is a better design than the newer246B overall in my opinion the Guardsman(246)is a far better lamp
     
  4. Neighbor Al

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    Thank you Mr. Optimus! I can't really afford to have duplicate lanterns, so I decided that it would be an early-model Guardsman or nothing at all. I'll probably sell two of my redundant/non-essential Coleman lanterns to make room in the garage.

    I just picked up a 171 globe from a seller on ebay.co.uk, so now I just wait for boxes in the mail!
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    Can you tell me what the "Made In ???" is about?
     

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    That will most likely be the E.E.C., the European Economic Community.

    Best regards,

    Wim
     
  6. David Shouksmith

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    Made in E.E.C. refers to the European Economic Community.

    Although that globe will fit and work perfectly well in your X246 Guardsman, it isn't the correct one for a lantern of that age. There are three different versions of the Tilley 171 globe which have a different depth 'dish' at the bottom. Earlier lanterns such as yours came fitted with a deep-dish globe. Later lanterns came fitted with a shallow dish globe, which your replacement almost certainly will be.

    Neil has shown a nice photograph of the three globes side-by-side and I bet it's on here somewhere. Beyond that, I've no idea of the exact dates of issue of each of the three types or what model(s) they were fitted to...

    Edit - I see I've crossed with Wim's post - I should learn to type quicker..!
     
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    I noticed that, but decided a functional globe was better than no globe at all for a beginning. I'll be keeping my eye out for a globe that better represents the age of the lantern.

    It appears that I have a hobby now...
     
  8. David Shouksmith

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    Here's my version of it:-

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    Earliest on the left; latest (EEC) on the right. There's not a huge difference between the one in the middle and the one on the right - you really need to see them together to make the comparison. There is, however, a marked difference between those two and the early one which can be clearly seen in the image.

    What's wrong with the one on the lantern you've shown, Al?
     

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  9. Neighbor Al

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    David,

    The seller reported that the globe was already cracked, and warned that it might not survive the mailing process. I elected to replace it straight away.
     
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    Hello AL, if the crack in the glass is not to bad then the glass will do for a while, Jeff.
     
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    Looks like a 1950-54 guardsman, which i believe are probably the best of the bunch. You have a nice lantern there, enjoy.
     
  12. Neighbor Al

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    The X246 Guardsman has been revived! (I can't call it "restored" since there is a lot of polishing to do still.)

    The SP1 gasket kid did the trick with the new pump leather and gaskets to keep the pressure and fuel in the pump. A normal pre-heat, a wiggle or to of the jet cleaner, and FLAME ON!

    Very happy. I'm waiting for the EEU globe to arrive so that I can put the cracked-but-original globe out of harms way.

    Photo of my latest baby:

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    Hi Al!

    Thats a stunning X246!

    It gives off a great light!

    You must be chuffed to bits!

    Well done!

    Adam
     
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    Hello AL, it's a well built and reliable lantern and it's good to see it restored to working order! :thumbup: Jeff.
     
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    Hi Al,

    Love the lamp, and the "display table" :) :)

    Dan
     
  16. Maurice Snowdon

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    Hello,
    I have 3 stiles of 171 globes. The one on the right is probably the oldest. About 1946 - 1950. Hope this helps.
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