Wards Westernfield 60-9523 Test.

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  1. Johnny19 United Kingdom

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    This beauty arrived on the morning that we were going away camping, so we took it with us along with some Coleman Fuel we had. I quickly got the knack of lighting this lamp........
    Here are some pics. wwf1.jpg wwf2.jpg wwf3.jpg wwf4.jpg
     
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    Great find and I see the original glass still intact.:thumbup:

    You will find that these lanterns are very bright. They also will run on the warm side but never too warm.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Norman
     
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    Thanks....Got to take extra care with this because the glass cannot be replaced apparently.....
     
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    That does the job!:thumbup:
     
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    @Johnny19
    Am I right in thinking there’s a Thermos-pattern pump in that lantern?

    If so, it’s made of aluminium, unscrews from the font, has an O-ring pump washer and is equipped with an unorthodox non-return valve reliant on an O-ring seal awkwardly tucked away.

    This Ted Williams stove is of the same era as your lantern, is equally unorthodox in design and has the Thermos-pattern pump.

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    Hope the weather was good to you...Many thanks for sharing your scarce and fab lantern, Johnny ! It looks to be in very good condition and working well :thumbup:
     
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    I see from THIS thread that it does in fact have a Thermos pump, not surprisingly because the lantern’s made by King Seeley Thermos, branded for and sold by the Montgomery Wards department store chain.

    @Johnny19 From experience with the Thermos pump on my stove I strongly recommend that you keep an eye on the pump O-ring in the NRV. They can harden and before you know it you’ve a pump tube full of fuel, rather more serious in the case of a petrol (white gasoline) pressure appliance, especially if lit at the time.

    The safety features of a Coleman lantern can’t be underestimated - positive locking check valve, check valve within a compartment not in direct contact with the fuel and an air outlet tube from the check valve discharging directly into the air space above the fuel, so even if the check valve weren’t locked and failed, only pressurised air and not fuel would discharge into the pump tube.
     
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    @presscall Yes will certainly keep an eye on that. I will look into spares for this, and do as much research as possible. I know its the 8326 Thermos underneath.
    I'm so glad it works ok, and it looks great when brightly lit. 60 or so pumps seems to keep it going for a good few hours, and I've still got some fuel left in it, surprisingly for such a large generator and being double mantle!
    For now i'll keep that o ring oiled as best I can. Cheers!
     
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    Great lantern and doing its job!
     
  10. Henry Plews

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    Certainly finding a glass with the THERMOS logo will be very difficult but a Coleman 275 glass will fit although it's 5 or 6mm shorter. I see oldcolemanparts only has the frosted version.
    Globe 275 Frosted

    Coleman 275 glass on the left.
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    Henry.
     
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    @Henry Plews Thanks for that! Good to know just in case...... [-o<
     
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    And sometimes the O ring needs replacing. The principal is straightforward but the task could be a little awkward if your fingers aren't as supple as they used to be. Dexterous digits are the order of the day.

    Here are some images to compliment those posted by @presscall.

    Using something suitable e.g. a narrow bladed screwdriver, pressing down on the small circle at the bottom of the pump tube
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    gives access to the O ring.
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    There is enough free movement to move the pin a little to one side which makes it easier to remove the old O ring with something like a dental pick but be careful not to leave deep scratches in the aluminium. Put in a new O ring and give the pump a few vigorous strokes to make sure it's seated properly and the job's done.
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    Thank You for all Your advice about this Lamp. The more I learn about it the better, as I want to use it on a regular basis, and not just keep it in the shed unused.
    The O rings from the Coleman site cost £30 to ship over here which is a bit steep though.....
     
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    Tip of a chopstick, drafting tape to hold it in place.

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    Shoot an email to Mike Merz, the owner of OCP, asking for a more exact shipping price. $30USD is the automatic charge, but anything less is refunded. A couple of Orings in a padded envelope should not be $30USD, and Mike is fantastic about only charging for actual shipping.

    Better yet, pop the o-ring and take it to your local auto parts supply. They should have a good selection of fuel-proof o-rings.

    Mike.
     
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    @MikeO Many thanks i'll send an email and see about getting a few extra too!;)
     
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    That's what I did and for a few pennies I had a working lantern.
     
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    Anyone know the size of that O ring in the nrv? I have a complete assortment of viton rings and nothing stops the leak.
     

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