Kayen CL12 vs Tilley AL21

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  1. jmwatt

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    As requested I will do a post showing the differences between the two lamps. Where things are both photographed the Kayen is on the left. Also the Kayen is cleaner and more shiny. I did not polish the Tilley because I fire it up now and again and it wrecks all the good work. The CL12 is smaller than theAL21. Height to top of the cowl 265 mm vs 270mm. Mouth of the body 174mm vs 180mm. depth of cowl, back to front 43mm vs 48mm. The catch of the CL12 was made by me as the original was missing. Note the CL12 is generally of lighter construction. eg the legs. Straight cuts are made on the CL12 rather than curves on the AL21. eg. the hand heat shield, hinges and door catch, DSC_0378_edited-1.jpg DSC_0379_edited-1.jpg DSC_0380_edited-1.jpg DSC_0381_edited-1.jpg DSC_0382.JPG DSC_0383_edited-1.jpg DSC_0384_edited-1.jpg DSC_0385_edited-1.jpg DSC_0386_edited-1.jpg DSC_0387_edited-1.jpg DSC_0388_edited-1.jpg DSC_0389_edited-1.jpg hinges and door catch DSC_0366_edited-1.jpg DSC_0367_edited-1.jpg DSC_0368_edited-1.jpg DSC_0369_edited-1.jpg DSC_0370_edited-1.jpg DSC_0371_edited-1.jpg DSC_0374_edited-1.jpg DSC_0375_edited-1.jpg DSC_0376_edited-1.jpg DSC_0378_edited-1.jpg
     

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    Thank you for the detailed comparison.

    You are fortunate to be able to do it!

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Thanks Jim, nice post. :thumbup:
    Same odd burner as mine too.
    Good lamp.
    There should be a few more show up too if people know they exist.
    As Neil pointed out a while ago they are the size of the AL11 but designed like the AL21.
     
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    Hi there!

    Many thanks for the detailed photos of two great lanterns!...Really interesting to see all the similarities :thumbup:
     
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    Two grand old lamps!:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    Two questions:

    1. The pump on the CL12 is different from any Kayen or Tilley pump that I’ve got in my possession. Is the pump swappable with the Tilley AL21?

    2. Can you please photograph the vapouriser in the CL 12?

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    Hi Tony
    The pumps are swappable
    I will photograph the vapouriser later
    Jim
     
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    Hi Tony
    Vapouriser photo. Not sure if it is original. The mate who gave it to me used to take it camping and calls it a Tilley Torch. The fellow who in turn gave it to him told him it was used in the early 1950s when a Garratt was derailed in Brisbane
    Jim CL12 Vapouriser.jpg
     
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    Thanks, Jim.

    That’s a Tilley vapouriser by the looks of it.

    Cheers

    Tony

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    It does look Tilley.
    The hunt is still on for a cross gnarled 5inch vapouriser.
     
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    I have a selection of vapourisers from various sources.I will see if there are different ones. I did notice that the knurled section was shallower ,top to bottom, than others of a similar length. Jim
     
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    No short Kayen vapourisers!
     

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