The last one looks like a Veritas 350 but the extra loops that the bail attaches to are odd. Never seen those before... maybe it's a home made adaptation or a prototype maybe? Anyone else know? The top 2 photos look more like a Coleman... the 3 piece filler cap, the pricker mechanism, central hood nut and small pre-heater cup... these all look more Coleman like. Maybe it's a 'bitsa' someone put together... maybe it's a genuine Coleman lamp I wasn't aware of. Could we see more details of the burner arrangement?
The top one is a Veritas P350, which runs on naphta/Coleman fuel. Nice lanterns and your bid for the P350 is fair price. The asking price for the second one - the Veritas 350 - is high IMHO. Here is is another one with the horizontal pump: Veritas 350
Is it yours? It wil take a lot off creating work to bring it back to life I think. Nice job for the winter time. The other one with the horizontal pomp, I think the hanging frame is modified.
Oh yes, my bad, the tip one's a (Dutch Army?) P350. A strange beast I always think and a model that somewhat trashed Veritas' reputation.
Those will be fine projects for when days shorten, for sure! How did that happen? I have a couple of P350’s an they a good runners with low maintenance. It is always good to know if there are certain aspects to be aware of. From what have read on the forum, predominantly the Superb gets a bad rep due to appearant unreliability? Experiences seem to be going in opposite directions...
Well, the story I heard was, the Dutch Army bought kero and coleman fuel/naptha versions of the Veritas 350/P350 lanterns and the two different types became confused. Even the markings on the founts were wrong in some cases which was extremely confusing! There were and probably still are kero versions and CF/Naptha versions incorrectly marked which can cause a lot of problems - allegedly! My experience with both the 350 and Superb lanterns is that they are reliable and easy to use. The Superbs I have and those of some other collectors even have a great habit of starting themselves after a short pre-heat.
I have to agree with Colin. There appears to have been a mixup in the way the P350 were marked for/by the Dutch Army mixing up the fuel types. This would have caused running issues when the wrong fuel was used, hence the start of an unfounded bad reputation. I have 2 x Superbs and 2 x 350s that work flawlessly. Cheers Pete
I have an Veritas P350 which runs very well indeed. The fuel tank/fount is marked KERO but this is a Coleman fuel lantern. The fuel tank/fount is Veritas but the whole upper section is AGM and this includes the control valve assembly. The pump and NRV are also AGM. The filler cap is also AGM. Cheers, Norman
That story has come up in topics regarding the P350 when someone new to this specific type of lantern asks a question about it. It doesn’t make sense to keep on repeating it, as there is nothing wrong the lantern itself. It seems more like an emotion around a case of brand damage due to user error, while repeating that exact message seems to (unintentionally) strengthen the view there is something with this brand and the product to everyone reading it.
@Brenneman as you say, there's nothing wrong with Veritas lanterns that I can detect, but if someone asks about the bad reputation, what else do you do but tell them how it happened and then state why it was mistaken.
@ColinG im glad you posted that that story, didn’t knew that and is up to the reader to believe what they read or not. As I’ve told you before Thanks, I do own a veritas superb that hadn’t fettled yet.
@Brenneman I understand what you’re saying about repeating the possible cause of the Veritas’s undeserved bad reputation. However, when a new member asks a question, what do you suggest we do? Ignore the question and let the member wonder, confused? The new member doesn’t know of any earlier posts, don’t you see! I for one will continue to impart the small amount of knowledge I have to help any member, any time. Cheers Pete
The OP or any other poster didn’t ask about the reputation of either the lantern or the brand. Then out of the blue this statement was made: Without any context given...hence my question how come. I fully agree new members may not read other posts and its good to share. It would be good to share the right information, like I mentioned that is runs on naphta/Coleman fuel. It makes me wonder how other lanterns get a bad rep, also due to user error? Or inexperience? Wrong information being given? Sometimes it occurs the badmouthing happens without the poster not even be acquainted with that specific lantern. Those facts also need to be known to be able to make a judgement whether the provided information is correct or that it’s one’s personal view. Becoming confused by reading older threads about the reputation of certain Veritas lanterns has happened Veritas P350
@Brenneman You have very valid points. @ColinG was the first of our members that actually questioned the bad reputation of the Veritas. Colin has, I believe, over 5 Veritas lantern of various models, I have 4 myself and @Norman has some. Between the 3 of us we, I believe, we resurrected the Veritas good name. We 3 and now others, have come out and refuted the myth of the poorly functioning Veritas lanterns. It’s through the members constant restoration and persistence that some old myths can be found as just myths and have no relevance. This constant critique is valuable to all members because without it then myths would gain a precedence thereby erroneously maligning perfectly good lanterns and hence their survival into the future. Cheers mate Pete
Veritas are good lanterns, i have the dutch army issue, i posted in the reference gallery, and a 350. Once i had worked out how they worked. The dutch army acually ran on petrol. Shellite. It has a preheat bowl that threw me thinking it was kero, but not.
@Brenneman if the OP hadn’t complied yet I think @ColinG is good to go. He owns several veritas if you read his posts you will find that he refers to them as good lanterns, he was sharing just a story please take it easy. I own one too and I’m pretty sure she will perform good I don’t care about the story shared.
@Pancholoco1911 I’m cool I now realise I should have all earlier posts before Well, the point has been made. As stated earlier these are going to be nice projects!
Definitely a P350. Traces of the army green paint are visible on the tank, collar and control knob. Happy fettling!
