Carbide lighting for 1920’s motorcycle

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  1. presscall

    presscall United Kingdom Subscriber

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    A headlamp and acetylene generator, Luxor brand (France).

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    Without a suitable motorcycle to mount the set on I’d to utilise a purpose-built frame.

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    Some fettling to do.

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    The parabolic mirror’s in good condition.

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    The lamp is fitted with two burners. The back one has a greater output. The one at the front contributes a marginal effect. The back burner is on all the time and a lever operating a shuttle valve allows selection of the front burner, on or off.

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    The lever selector.

    Main beam only.

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    Both burners lit.

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    The selector valve arrangement.

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    The chamfer on the sprung-loaded shuttle valve ...

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    ... seals against that mating surface in the valve body, stopping gas flow to the front burner.

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    Effective in action, when the lever is moved to the right, gas reaches the front burner, igniting from the main burner flame

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    ... and off.

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    The acetylene generator.

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    Contemporary advertisement.

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    Hood and shade.

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    John
     
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    Thanks John, that's really something interesting!

    Great write up and photos of a lovely piece of kit :thumbup:
     
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    A fine example!:thumbup:
     
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    Interesting.
     
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    Very nice John :thumbup:, I like the idea of high and low beam :)
     
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    I added a rear light to complete the set, a Powell and Hanmer (Birmingham, UK).

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    I’d to make a 3-way connector. Brass tubing, silbrazed at the joint. Pipe to generator, one to front and rear.

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    The red fresnel lens and mount hinges open to get access to light the jet.

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    Visible there is the clear glass side window. I assume its for a rider to look over their shoulder to confirm it’s still lit. Odd if so because the burner flame isn’t prone to extinguishing once lit.

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    Great illumination.

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    Boy, this is different for sure! This is really neat and well presented!:D/:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    Nice presentation.
    Thanks for posting this, interesting is an understatement.
     
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    Hi John, very nice set up, now all you need is the bit to go in-between them;)

    The white side light on the rear light, would be to shine light onto the rear number plate I would say.

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    A fascinating combination of lights and beautifully made. Thanks for putting up.
     
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    Of course! I should have realised. Thanks for pointing that out.
     
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    Very nicely presented. Thank you John. That assembly is surely a good conversation piece in your home when you have guests...

    Did these early carbide bike lamps ever come with a self- lighting mechanism? A spark wheel or other contraption? It seems hard to think the rider would have had to open the frames and light the gas with a match every time. Imagine that in the wind and rain....
     
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    I'm aware that spark wheels could be found on some.
     
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    I’ve only seen such on miners’ lamps, such as the Justrite pictured below, but not on vehicle carbide lamps.

    Start of journey, set the water drip, wait a minute or two for air to be dispelled from the gas lines, ignite burners. End of journey, shut off water drip, blow out flame at each burner.

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    I only have one bicycle or motorcycle carbide headlamp.
    By Otto Scharlach: Scharlach-Lampe , Nurnberg.
    I don't know how old is that. I'm guessing from the time around WWI.
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    @MYN A classy shape with the water reservoir and carbide container blending into that elongated ellipse.
     
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    Thanks @presscall
    There are not many to be found around here in my area. I think it was probably because automotive carbide lamps had been phased out long before we could see motorcycles being used on the roads by commoners.
     

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