Aida 1214, or whatever. The magic lamp with a story.

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  1. Dieselross

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    Moin,
    I recently ran into an interesting old lamp. At first I thought of an old Aida, 1214 as the nameplate says.
    But after cleaning and refurbishing the parts, an interesting mixture with its own story emerged

    A Petromax 826 tank has appeared under the green paint.
    At least relatively old, still with an "E" in the "G" .
    Parts such as the pump, articulated carburetor, vent screw and handwheel seem to be part of the tank.
    The day frame is much better on shot, possibly younger, but very safe from a different lamp.
    But at least, the design is appropriate. Hood burner head and carburetor are also probably old design, but the hood is much more rocked than the rest.
    But everything is there, the chunks fit together and are acceptably old.
    The price was reasonable, so fresh to work.
    Let's see what happens.
    I discovered a nice thing while cleaning the tank.
    "Gerhard Kuchenbecker
    Siegfriedstrasse 6
    BLN Schöneberg
    10/30/53
    No. 122
    That alone is reason enough to let the lamp shine again.
    That is more history than the best NOS lamp from that time can offer
    The rest of the tech is good, cleaning and adjusting should be enough.

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    The hood design looks like among the first few units from the Altena factory, if I'm not wrong. This is a little different from the later ones. The vent holes are more squarish and it has a rather more a well-defined stepped upper section than the later ones from Germany. It has transitioned from the earlier one with the two screws on top of the hood. However, I understand that the pump cap is an earlier(pre-war) design together with the full-metal knob. That goes for the fibre(pertinax?) pricker wheel and filler cap too. These look like earlier designs, not the 50s or 60s.
    The frame is still old style with vertical oblong slots but I think this was still available at least till the early 50s.
    Where was the Aida 1214 stamped-on? It doesn't look like one to me.
    Yes, the E+G logo was still used till the early 50s I think.
    Is that the address of one of the buildings in the last photo? No idea what significance it had. Does it still look the same at present?
     
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    Sorry... yes, it does look like an Aida 1214.
     
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    Moin,
    it looks a little bit different.... 2020-11-22-10-51-42.jpg
     
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    Is that the original building that has been face-lifted?
     
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    Perhaps its the name of the previous owner living in that address. Maybe he fettled the Aida and replaced it with a Petromax fount. I think Aida was already merged into Graetz by the 50s.
     
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    Moin,
    I can't say exactly, the picture was made available to me by a German collector from another forum. I also think that someone repaired the lamp and marked it as their property.
     
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    Very interesting lamp. Since these were daily use items (particularly in areas where the electricity supply was down/problematic right after the war) most owners had them fixed and going using whatever parts were available and could fit properly.
     
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    A grand old lantern!:thumbup:
     
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    @Dieselross

    What a wonderful secret message to find under the paint. And you have done excellent work cleaning it up. :thumbup:
     
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    A great old lantern with history too, thanks for sharing.
     
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    So what makes a brand?
    The hood or the tank?
     
  13. Dieselross

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    The right question about an evening with a good beer in the lamp workshop. IMG_20201025_185850.jpg Thanks to the Netherlands, it will be an interesting evening!
     
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    Damn, another nice neat work shop... I think mine needs to be "gutted out" and I should start over.... :cry::oops:
     
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    For security reason, the fire extinguisher should not hang at the wall behind the table.
    Instead it should stand next to the table.
    Not to bend over a burning lantern to grab it.....
     
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    ha ha, I thought the same.
     
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    For some reasons, extinguishers are often no where to be seen when we really need them.
    The same applies to just about everything else.
     
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    Dear Gentlemen.
    We are well known to the location. nevertheless, I made a conscious decision for the chosen location.
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    Nor do I make a secret of the fact that in the event of a fire these fire extinguishers will not improve the situation.

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    Excellent!:thumbup:
     
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    Dear Gentlemen.
    I am well aware of the correct locations for installing a fire extinguisher. Nevertheless, I decided on the chosen location.[
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    But I also make no secret of the fact that in the event of a fire these fire extinguishers will not make things much better.
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    Ha ha, very clever!
    A good place to hide your booze from the wife :lol:
     
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    That's what I'm talking about :lol:.
     
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    You could have fooled me ....
    Nice.
     
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    Love it!
     
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    Wow, dinner is about to be "poured"!!:mrgreen:
     
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    Made me laugh out loud.
    And the bottle content may serve
    as pre heating liquid:mrgreen:

    Matthias
     
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    Where do you hide the true fire safety equipment?

    Or do you miss that??

    Should be standard equipment in a good workshop.
     
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    @Dieselross that is brilliant, good effort with the Korn dispenser.
     
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    @bp4willi
    I am self-employed full-time and my private workshop is of course also supplied with fire protection equipment.
    I don't have a photo of an active fire extinguisher and my fire blanket at hand.

    The grain is a "Sasse Lagerkorn".
    The best brandy you can get.
    Typical Münsterland, good brandy, good grain and stored in oak barrels to mature.
    Here the Link to the Manufaktur:

    World-Class Distillery: Feinbrennerei Sasse I Münsterländer Lagerkorn

    Much too good to preheat the lamp, just good to pour yourself onto the lamp ......
     

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