What is this lamp, a Frankenstein one?

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  1. Don Octavio Netherlands

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    Found on my local market, not sure what to think of it. Looks like a pressure stove reservoir with an ordinary oil lamp on top.

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    Think it's a Frankenlamp! It's a wick lantern burner but it doesn't look like it belongs on the tank...
     
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    @Don Octavio

    It looks like a Cosmos wick lamp burner mounted on a “Beille” pressure stove tank.

    I’ve not heard of Beille stoves, but that is a standard pressure stove tank configuration.

    Tony
     
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    Hum... there may be another letter in front of the 'B' ? .. 'A' perhaps?

    That would make it Abeille ?... Not sure if that helps or not... ?

    ps.. that translates as 'Bee' !
     
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    @podbros

    You are correct! “Abeille”.

    Tony
     
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    @Don Octavio, welcome to this forum.

    It is a franken lamp. Did you buy it?

    A wick cosmos burner doesn't need pressure. So a tank with pump is "silly".
     
  7. Don Octavio Netherlands

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    I haven't bought it, still thinking about it, but it would be for reselling. With the A that podbros discovered, I found an exact same question on this forum:

    Abielle Pressure lamp or Oil Lamp ?

    It's a Frankenlamp.

    I started the same thread on our sister side:

    https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/what-is-this-stove-a-frankenstein-one.45626/

    Where user Radler wrote:



    These lamps appear from time to time in France. In French lamp-forums they are known and discussed without a conclusion.

    I see them as a historical relict. My theory is, the ABEILLE kerosene stoves were produced in Algeria, when Algeria was a part of France. In 1962 the FLN won the liberation war and De Gaulle decided surprisingly to remove all French troops from Algeria. Algeria was independent.

    The new Government installed a Socialist Economy. The ABEILLE Brand was acquired 1963 from VEB Monsator Haushaltsgroßgeräte-Kombinat Schwarzenberg, East Germany (People owned Enterprise, vendor of BAT stoves). It seems, there was some production of stoves for a short time with brands as ABEILLE, and BEE in East Germany (GDR).

    The lamps with wick burner and useless (fake) pump could be made from relict stove parts in Algeria and sold to tourists.

    Is there a "Made in France" mark on the fount? Somewhere in the CCS archive is a picture of a ABEILLE stove card-box. The style looks very much as handmade in Algeria.

    Regards
    Radler
     
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    At least it should have a long burn time! I'd give it a home. Quite a sensible modification if it's what was to hand at the time.
     
  9. Don Octavio Netherlands

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    @JonD I'm doubting, it's 20 euro's. I like it, but not sure if's worth it for an eventually resale.
     
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    That's my point. I wouldn't sell it. I would use it.
     

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