AGM 2570

Discussion in 'AGM - American Gas Machine' started by Johan Osinga, Feb 18, 2020.

  1. Johan Osinga

    Johan Osinga Netherlands Subscriber

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    I bought this little lamp via Ebay a while ago. It was very cheap and that was because the fount was full of stresscracks, no less than 14 cracks. Some will find it crazy, but I have decided to try and save the fount. Because the cracks were very close to each other, I soldered the cracks in a pan with water, so that each soldered crack would not melt again while another is being soldered. After this was successful, I was able to start finishing, making the soldered cracks flat again. I sprayed the fount in a color that comes as close as possible to the original color. I treated the inside of the fount 5 times with a tanksealer to ensure that it is properly closed. Here are the pictures.....

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  2. BigStevie

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    Wow Johan, well saved! Thanks for sharing, an impressive fettle!
     
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    @Johan Osinga that is above and beyond the call of duty, it must be love! Brilliant job. Nice photos and a great looking lantern. You must be "chuffed as ten men"! :D/
     
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    @Johan Osinga That's what I call determination!!!:D/ Beautiful job! I would have chucked it in the scrap pile long ago if I had something like that! In fact, I have one like that, bought it about 25-30 years ago. It was so loaded with stress cracks I was afraid of it and just dumped it in shed. Figured some day, maybe....
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    Well fettled!:thumbup::clap::clap::thumbup:
     
  6. Jean J

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    That’s a smart looking lamp, Johan.
     
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    @Johan Osinga
    Congratulations on a very fine fettle. I like the way you fixed the stress cracks in the fount, well done.
    Enjoy
    Cheers
    Pete
     
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    Hello !

    One saved ! well done ! a lot of effort put in that one for sure !
     
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    A really nice repair job on the fount, and an excellent outcome overall. :thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    Excellent repair. The bowl of water as a heat sink is a top idea!
     
  11. Mackburner

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    Stress cracks are normal but a sound one will work quite well however this model 2570 has always puzzled me a little. I have it listed in the PLC and we know it exists because several have turned up and I have one here. The puzzle is 2570 is not mentioned in any AGM paper at all. From the number I would expect it to be about 1946 to 1948 but it is not listed in any post WW2 parts catalogues. The generator/burner design is more like a Kamplite than any other AGM product and that would make it a 1950s lantern but it is marked as AGM not Kamplite. It is a sort of marriage between and AGM 3006 and a Kamplite RL21 or 22. It would be nice if one day a piece of paper evidence turned up for the model. ::Neil::
     
  12. Pancho

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    I had one and made a Frankenstein using a Coleman 275 fount. That lantern is a American Sun Flame Model 2570 pictures are from evil bay
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    Ah yes I know it's an AGM Sun Flame but that is a complex brand name which I really don't fully understand. SunFlame was the brand name of SunFlame Appliances of Ridgefield NJ from the mid 1930s. SFA bought the assets of the Akron Lamp Co in 1948 and produced Akron Designed lamps in the 1950s. Those lamps have a distinctly AGM flavour and I suspect there was some AGM influence it the design of Akron 400 and these later 1950s SunFlame lanterns. However AGM also used the same brand name from the 1930s on some products and the brand name appears on this lantern which has to be from the period when SFA was still an independent company. I suspect there was some tie in between AGM and SFA from the mid 1930s onwards but I don't know the nature of this collusion. In the mid 1950s King Seeley took over SFA and by that time they also owned AGM so both these separately incorporated businesses came together in the same ownership for a few years before all the old companies AGM, Akron, King Seeley, Queen Stove, SFA and Thermos were all merged into King Seeley Thermos in 1960.


    So this lantern is an AGM Sun Flame not an SFA Sunflame although from the burner design it could be either. However the Label is AGM and as it has no mention of being a division of Queen Stove or King Seeley I would assume it has to be from before 1950 when Queen Stove bought out AGM and therefore about the same time SFA bought Akron when from the incorporation documents we know AGM and SFA were speparate companies. ::Neil::
     
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    My brain hurts!

    But the above posts does show how complicated it can be nailing some of these lamps to a manufacturer or brand name.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    I agree. I had several weeks of brain trauma trying to unravel it all. In this case we have AGM, Akron and Sun Flame all ending up as part of Thermos in 1960 and along the way a great deal of activity such as strikes, mergers, buy outs, out sourcing parts and other unrecorded cooperation not forgetting factory closures and changes of manufacturing bases with probably some influence from Preway after the mid 1940s. We have a deal of paper as well but as is often the case no definitive answers. So for SunFlame the post above and the historical info in the PLC is the best I can do but I know very well it is probably not the whole truth. ::Neil::
     
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    What was the paint you used for this project? I have one fount that I want to repaint. Thanks!
     
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    i bought all the top bits from pancholoco and put them on a 242c fount that i painted with rust oleum cranberry gloss. it is ready to fire.
     

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