Coleman 235 question

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  1. max messing

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    Hi, I am new to the forum as of today. Not sure if this question has already been answered, but here goes. I have a 235 that needs a little bit of fettling. The valve and burner tube are not tighted or positioned correctly at the moment, and the there is some paint loss on the fount. I am curious what paint was used for the fount? Do you know the code or brand that was used? How did you remove the old paint?

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    That's a beautiful lantern! The 235 is high on my want list.

    Obviously it's up to yourself but please do not repaint, it's taken alot of years to end up looking like that. A light polish to clean up the paint and decal will have it looking great...

    Elliott
     
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    Close to the point of a paint job. If just filling a spot on your shelf, repaint.
    Duane
     
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    That's an amazing lantern.

    I think the collector value of that would be negatively impacted if you repainted. I know as I collector I would prefer it as is.
     
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    Thanks for the compliment! After reading the replies I am thinking of leaving it as is. The only other item I need to put together is a generator. If I understand correctly I need a 220 body, 201 guts, and a 200 needle? I am told I will never find an orginal generator that came on it from the factory.
     
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    Welcome aboard!:thumbup:

    That is a very lucky find.:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    I love to restore my lanterns but I really believe in this case I would leave it alone! These are the kind of lanterns that are really hard to find! It’s not that they are rare,:D/:thumbup::D/ just damn hard to find!
    They are painted in what I call a teal green. Very pretty green that sets apart from other Coleman lanterns of that period.
    Enjoy it, you have a real winner here!
    :D/:thumbup::clap:
     
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    Thanks for the compliment. This was a lucky find from one of the charities here in the states. Someone got rid of it as excess clutter if you can believe that! My good luck to find it.

    I was wondering if someone out there can recommend which mantles to use on this lantern? I am not familiar with what type this model uses.
     
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    Thanks for the compliment and your recommendation for leaving it alone. It seems most collectors on this forum prefer to find them un-restored or at least not repainted.
     
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    Please DONT repaint it………
    The paint on yours is actually very nice for a 85 year old lantern. You definitely did good getting one at all and you did very well getting one in that great condition…….
    Here’s mine that I made a video on……….

     
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    Unless the paint is flaking and too far gone, I wouldn't even think about a paint job.
    If the lantern is re-coated, no matter how flawlessly done or shiny it comes out, I'd have sort of an anticlimax feeling from that. Even if the new paint colour perfectly matches the original, it won't make me feel any better.:)
     
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    I'm not sure about that. I was told by others that I would need a T44K which apparently are impossible to come by, or make up one from three different generators, a 220 body, 201 guts and 200 gas tip. I read somewhere that a 206 generator might work as well, but not sure about that either.
     
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    Can check in with Coleman Collectors Forum, mine may still have the genny that came with it. I did a kero conversion with a 220K I had, using above parts and adding a preheat cup.
    Duane
     
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    Good to know. I did join the C.C.F. today and will ask the same question there. Thanks hikerduane:thumbup:
     
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    Did you get your answer?

    If not here’s what it says in the ultimate generator list by a Matt Reid

    Replacement for the T44K.The 231 was an export Kero version of the 220 basically a modern 235. Use cleaning rod and 6 gas tip from the T66 (aka 200A-5891) in a T44 (aka 220E-5891) Gen. The V tip in the orginal T44K Gives poor results on modern fuels.

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    We are all drooling here over this ... I hope you preserve this " as is " ... to be a shelf queen or not ..
    that is the question ... maybe light it up for special events buddy :D/
     
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    To answer your questions; I Frankensteined a generator from a 220E body, and 201 guts. I did not change the tip as the older 220E that I used looks to have the same tip as the 200A genny. It seems to burn nice and bright with no pulsing. I have decided to keep it original, so just a cleaning of the brass parts, the frame, and cleaning/waxing the fount. Looks great as it is.

    Thanks to everyone for the feedback, I really enjoyed the project and it turned out better than I expected!
     

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    Well fettled - what a beautiful lantern!
     
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    Very nice !!!
    It looks great
     
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    Yes, paint shined up nicely.
    Duane
     
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    Regular Nr 21 mantels should work on the lantern.

    Nice find and I’m glad you have decided to leave it “as is” for the time being. :D/
     

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