What is model of lamp - Petromax?

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  1. Zorki Poland

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    Hello,
    i'm asking for help: what is the lamp model and is it possible to buy parts for it? I'm totally green in this.
    thank you!
    bests
    Zorki
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  2. Henry Plews

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    Hello and welcome @Zorki.

    I think your lantern is Petromax 2827 with a more modern control wheel. Look in The Lamp Reference Gallery - Germany - Petromax - Lanterns to see other examples.

    Some parts are available, have a look here Detailseite: Ersatzteil- und Zubehörliste Petromax 250 HK
    Finding everything else will be difficult, you may have to look for a similar lantern but these 200 and 250 candle power lanterns are very collectible so they are usually expensive - especially on eBay. You may get lucky and find something a little cheaper at a flea market.
     
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    It does appear like a 200/250hk Petromax. Could be a model 2827 or 827. 2827 founts are usually painted green. Do you find any traces of paint?
    Perhaps from the 1940s or very late 30s. Are all the upper parts missing? Although the bakelite pricker control knob is of a later production than the fibre wheel, it is still an early 2-piece version that can be found on lanterns from that era.
    Original parts will be very hard to find. You might have substitute them with parts from other makes or later production parts.
     
  4. Zorki Poland

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    Dear Henry,
    thank you very much for welcoming and message. It seems to be much more difficult i was wondering. Becouse i know only simple Tilley pressure lamps (own two).
    Thank you!
    bests!
    Zorki
     
  5. Zorki Poland

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    Dear Myn,
    thank you for answer. I'll have it in my hands in a few days. Will clean it and maybe see more. Here is only what is on the pictures. Lot of parts are missing. How to know about substitute which will fit into it? Delivery to my country are quite expensive, so i should order right parts. Will let you know about paint and send more pictures when will have it.
    Thank you!
    bests!
    Zorki
     
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    Dear Zorki,
    In fact I guess that your country is a good spot to find old German lanterns.
    Maybe not now but hopefully in the future again.
     
  7. Zorki Poland

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    Dear Wim,
    yes, you are right. Maybe someday will find what i need.
    Thank you!
    bests!
    Zorki
     
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    It might not be easy to tell if it is exactly 200hk or 300hk from the above picture alone.
    An old 300hk Petromax 828 will also have the rapid preheater as for the above.
    If it is 300hk, then a lot of newer 350hk parts will fit. Parts for 350hk Petromax lanterns are not as difficult to find. Many parts from similar clones will often fit too.
    You should have a clearer idea once the lantern arrives.
     
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  10. Zorki Poland

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    Dear friends!
    I did some basic cleanings - no trace of name or other signature. Paint looks dark brown / green. here are more pictures.
    thank you!

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  11. Zorki Poland

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    Dear Myn,

    I did cleaning and it is possible that it was painted, but at the bottom is really dark paint - could be dark green. Check more picutres above.
    Thank you!
     
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    There is place for rapid preheater but looks like removed or missing parts. I don't know what it should be. Maybe more pictures will tell us more.
     
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    @Zorki

    Dark green paint?

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    Tony
     
  14. MYN

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    A typical Petromax 2827 would be painted green and has a green-vitreous enamel coating on its hood.
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    However, the Petromax 850 and some Petromax 827B can also be green.

    The rapid preheater has various design changes over the years but you might find the 1930s design, diecast zinc handled type on the 2827. It might look something like this:
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    It is also possible to find the 1950s toggle lever design type on these:
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  15. Zorki Poland

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    Dear Tony,
    At the bottom is original color, but looks more vary dark green - army style. Very similar to that model you send in next message 2827.
    And the last picture - lamp from 1950 looks identical as mine - at the first sight. So it should be 2827 - do you know where to look for missing parts. There is a lot of them. Is it worth to go with rebuilding it or looking another lamp?
    Maybe someone would need that parts?
    Thank you!
     
  16. Martin K.

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    @Zorki If you are very patient it may be worth keeping this fragment. It may come the time you need it yourself as a parts donor, or that you are able to akquire the missing parts one by one.
    In my experience it's always the same parts that are missing from incomplete lanterns. In rare cases, however, you can get them, for example, at somehow cobbled together lanterns, which then in turn become parts donors again...
    Good luck, Martin

    P. S. Nevertheless, if you were planning to get rid of your fragment(s), I would be interested in them. Just send me a PM.
     

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