Recently i bought this nice Veritas pressure lamp, which i believe is a 350. It had some very old paraffin still in the tank and came with a broken glass that was entirely blackened, as was the interior. After cleaning the lamp and did some minor repair, i filled it with paraffin, pre-heated it and lit it up. It ran for maybe a minute and then began spurting flames. Hence now i am in doubt if it indeed runs on paraffin or should run on Coleman fuel instead, but how can you tell? And can any harm be done to the lamp (and the environment) if i light it up wit Coleman fuel? Thanks in advance for your help!
I suspect this version was designed to burn unleaded petrol - but not the modern stuff that has other additives. Try Coleman fuel or Wasbenzin and see if the lantern burns correctly. Coleman fuel or Wasbenzin will do no more harm to the environment than kerosene.
That looks like the P350 version There are some differences between this version and the standard 350, one of which is the pump. I believe this version does use the Coleman type fuel or a close alternative You should really search the forums for Veritas P350 or Dutch P350 and you should find a lot of related information so you can get acquainted with how to use and operate it safely Lots of folk here have used these before and will be able to advise regards
This is a P350, a petrol lantern. You can use Aspen 4, Stihl Moto4Plus, Coleman Fuel, Primus Power Fuel, MSR Superfuel, Wasbenzine and other light naphta or alkylate fuels.
Agree with @Brenneman and @podbros, Veritas P350. Pentagonal valve, horizontal Coleman like pump, ball nut. @Maverick is there by any chance a date stamped into the cage frame rest. Often it is hard to see and it is usually within a cm of the edge. I am not 100% sure they are on P350 but probably are.
It should be able to run on light naphtha or Coleman Fuel. It has a positive shut off valve, a pump like that of a Coleman and a fuel filler cap that doesn't have an air pressure relieve valve. You can check if the pump has a snorkel-like tube inside the fount as well. It has a spirit cup for preheating. Whether or not it could run on paraffin would depend on the jet orifice size. If its worn, it won't work well with paraffin.
I agree with the blokes above, this is a petrol version P350 lantern. The give away, already mentioned, is the pump and also the single ball nut retaining the hood. The kerosene 350 has 2 metal thread round head screws retaining the hood. I believe quite a few of these were used by the Dutch army. I would not use petrol, because of the additives, but I’d use Coleman fuel type naphtha fuel. In Australia we have a product called “Shellite” that does the job very well. The jet size for this lantern would be slightly larger than for the kerosene 350. This would account for it running so rich. Nice find, I’m envious Cheers Pete
There may be a product where you are called Wasbenzine or Wasbenzin ? Use the search bar and have a look at what other folks have said about it
@Maverick , hi there as the fellas have said you have a P350 The Dutch Army's version, they are very cool they have a bad reputation due to the confusion. The meth cup is confusing paraffin (kerosene) but actually run on shellite (Coleman fuel). The meth cup still acts as the pre heat it makes the lighting up easier, not big flare up. The vaporiser has brass mesh inside as a restriction. The pump is like the Coleman check valve, if you look in the lantern reference gallery you will find my post about my P350. I hope this helps you, Veritas lanterns are very cool
Thanks for the support! As per Darryl's advise I preheated it and here it is running on Coleman fuel. Not running quite flawlessly because occasionally it "coughs" flames, guess there is some dirt, or paraffin residue left in the tank, although i did rinse it before use. @Sedgman: I have did not find any date stamped in the cage frame rest, which i assume is the part in the picture below I have two more of these lamps, one of which is a Dutch army lamp, but apart from that they are identical to this one. One is missing the needle, jet and glass (which I used for this one), the army type has a jet with a torn threading. A spare jet and needle are very hard to come by I understood from the discussions on this forum, but is there any chance that I can buy a jet somewhere? With a spare jet I can restore the army lamp, which only leaves me with one non functional lamp (missing the needle, jet and glass).
@Maverick My description of the location where the date stamp often occurs on model 350s was not the best. On the base of the globe cage frame is where they occur commonly on many of the standard model 350. I was curious if a P350 model was similarly marked. The picture shows where it would normally appear if it was present.
@Sedgman : no markings to be found there either. I had a close look at all the parts, there are no markings at all. Not even from the manufacturer.
I have what looks to be an identical lamp. It runs nicely on Kerosine. BTW I have a beautiful little 'MAX SIEVERT APH' blowtorch which I'd like to get running. It says 'BENZOLINE' on the fount. So what fuel should I use?
@Julian Whittaker Some petrol blowlamps are often real dodgy and potentially dangerous. That does not mean ALL petrol blowlamps but I take more care with them than any other liquid fuelled appliance. That being said, search for Blowlamp News BN 91 June 2015 on the Internet and there is a nice listing of Sievert models. The APH is the old number for a model 223 petrol model which is half a litre and about 1961/62. The listing also shows kerosene models further down clearly indicated as kerosene. So this is not one of those foreign fuel names that gets confusing.
An internet search reveals that "benzoline" may refer to "benzole" - a coal tar product used as a "motor spirit" or a base for one. Hard to imagine a world before large-scale petrol production interesting mention in Hansard in 1925: https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commo...3-47de-b1f3-b0836f7e42e6/MotorSpiritAndBenzol and part of another outlining production in 1933 Motor Benzole. | World Petroleum Congress (WPC) | OnePetro
I remember back in the day there was a fuel called 'National Benzole' As far as I know it was petrol -it was sold as such anyway. Thanks, I'll take care. See if I can find operating instructions and give it a thorough clean and checkover before I do anything. It does appear to be in very good condition.
Another small fact I was not aware of: Benzoline was added to Gasoline for it's anti-knock (octane boosting) properties. When Benzoline was shown to be harmful to life they switched to tetraethyl lead which was already in use as an anti-knock additive. Much like "coalazine" used in miners lamps "benzoline" was produced at town gas facilities here in the UK. The switch to natural (North sea) gas in the UK meant the demise of Town gas plants. C
That stuff was possibly a by-product of the gas works, Julian, similar stuff was sold here in Britain & also in Germany, sometimes known as "Benzol", a Coal-Distillate from the fraction which resembles petroleum Naptha, Motor-Cars would run just as well on that as petrol & so would lanterns, though the stuff probably contained a nice quota of aromatics! RxR
