Vapalux 300 - as found

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  1. Greenboy23

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    13F4341F-661E-46B8-BCEF-9A1568857456.jpeg 854A9DFC-17E7-4074-9E10-5DAA988A5F73.jpeg 3B43055B-21E8-4B72-AEC5-969B5793946D.jpeg 60CEBD6D-C2C4-486C-9FE4-ACFEB5AF6451.jpeg 6B4BCCDF-4107-4D6B-87D7-E13F8704F0F5.jpeg Showing this Vapalux 300 as found before fettle.

    It has a manometer/ filler, lighting hole in glass and separate air release.

    Manometer is showing 60, any advice on this would be appreciated.thanks Lee.
     
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    Whoa, that’s a beaut Lee.

    Regarding the manometer, I’ve not worked on that specific type but it’ll surely have a bourden tube connected by a linkage to the indicator needle.

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    That’s a Geniol stove manometer, same pattern as used on an Optimus stove or lantern.

    There was too much play in the mechanism of the one I needed to fix, which meant that when the bourden tube activated, the ‘slack’ resulted in the needle not registering a reading. Solution wass to gently expand the bourden tube loop, with a screwdriver, to ensure the needle returned to the datum stop, but not too forcefully, when a nil reading would result, as with too much play in the linkage.

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    With your manometer having the needle right over the scale I suspect a linkage that’s out of engagement or a bourden tube that’s been distorted out of its correct curve - too flat a curve. Likely either fault can be put right.

    John
     
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    Thanks for the info John,I’ve only just got the lamp so will take it apart and investigate,will post more pictures when finished.
     
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    Is that not an early E41 tank with separate air release and monometer?
    Great find.
     
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    Don’t know Gary,I tried matching it with ones in the Terry Marsh book and thus thought it was a 300,but not sure. Lee
     
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    It certainly is and other examples can be seen here
    E41 and here Hand Lamps

    I wonder about the glass though. Originally, the holes where drilled not melted.
     
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    Henry,there is no Vapalux stamp on the glass either,maybe it’s a replacement,Lee.
     
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    A very lucky find!:thumbup:
     
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    @Greenboy23 nah that's a bitsa, bring it to Ashover I'll take it off your hands.;)
     
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    That’s really good of you Matthew,but I’ll hang on to it for now, however I’ll see you at Ashover mate,Do you reckon it’s a E41 with a 300 top?,because l can’t find another with this configuration.
     
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    The Ashover Show? Didn’t that happen in August? I guess you mean another event there …
     
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    Yes John,it’s the Ashover festival of light, steam engines and lamps etc, 30th Sept -2nd Oct, Lee
     
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    Of course!
     
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    @Greenboy23: I think you're right- an early E41 that's had a later 300 top (I can't quite make out the date- '43 or '45?) swapped onto it. Is the frame brass, steel or a mixture, and what is the jet cleaner knob made from?
    Pretty sure that the glass never came from W&B: as Henry said the hole is hot formed, plus it looks too small and too high up the glass, and the glass itself looks a little too narrow for the frame. Looks somehow familiar; something like Hasag perhaps?
    ETA: A quick check in the gallery seems to suggest that manometers marked "Willis and Bates" and that "T" style pressure release are both very early features...
     
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    Good points !

    :thumbup: That is supported by the Vapalux and Bialaddin book

    Great find !
     
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    Steerpike,just checked,the frame is all brass and the jet cleaner knob is brass with an arrow, the date is 1943. Lee
     
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    OK, that's the second version of the knob, I believe that would suggest that:
    a)Most of this lantern (except for the hood and the glass) left the factory together- it's not a bitza in the usual sense.
    b)It probably dates from mid to late 1941- if the frame is stamped "Patent Pending" then before October of that year.
     
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    It all points to it having the wrong hood,I’ve got a spare E41 hood I may swap it with that and keep this hood as a spare. Lee
     
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    Late to the party but yes that's right, stick your spare E41 hood on it and that'll be a cracking lamp.:thumbup:

    I've got a glass here with a hole in it and the edges are fire polished but I wouldn't like to say whether yours is original or not, fits well though so definitely look after it.
     
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    I will Matt,started the strip down now,the spare top is the one I bought off Mick at Newark about 4 years ago,Lee.
     
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    You got a real winner there!!!
    :D/:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    Thanks George, Lee.
     

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