Hello, I am looking for a petrol or dual fuel lantern which weighs as little as possible. Ive seen this one from Coleman http://www.coleman.com/product/229-725#.UBBlDZLVq23 Any other sugestions? Perhaps I can find some on Ebay.
I owned one of those for a while. About as much light as a 40 watt light bulb if I recall. Nice and compact.
Hello and welcome aboard! I tend to avoid modern lanterns, because they are not as well made as the older ones. The first link below shows Coleman lanterns model 242, they are a well made small lantern. The second link shows Coleman lanterns model 249, which are paraffin/kerosene lanterns, which are also well made small lanterns, Jeff. http://www.classicpressurelamps.com/forum/showgallery.php?fid/219/ http://www.classicpressurelamps.com/forum/showgallery.php?fid/222/
Coleman 229 is about half the size and a third the weight of the 247-9 types. All of these Peak One type lanterns are neat little cutiepies that work well. I don't like the quality much and they are not as serviceable as older types but in good condition they are about as small as you can get with a decent light output. ::Neil::
I have a 226, which is practically the same as the 229. I just like this better because it has a collar which makes it (seemingly) sturdier. Atleast that's what I like to think, but in reality I doubt that there is much practical difference. All these lanterns (Peak one, just as Neil says) are as small as they get, and I am very satisfied with mine. Just as everyone already pointed out, the quality isn't as it was in the good old days, but on the other hand we are talking about brand new lanterns, and I would expect them to give us many years of problem free use. After that, it's just to toss 'em in the bin. Mine has never failed me since I bought it some five or six years ago, and it has been along on some rough rides at sea. It's small enough to be able to squeeze into a (not to well filled) backpack. I don't give much for the "Dual-Fuel"-thing, however. I only use alkylate petrol. Never the regular, unleaded one. Could go in an emergency, of course, but I think it is told that these simple generators were particularily easy to clog up. Not sure it's an actual fact, though! Just something I vaguely remember reading somewhere, so take it for what its worth... Still! why use regular petrol on a thing like this? It wont ruin you to buy alkylate petrol. Especially not if you live close to a marina which has it in their pumps at lower cost than the cans in petrol stations. Here's some images so you can compare it with two common sizes of lanterns: The Coleman 242, which I consider as a small lantern, and the Coleman 220 which is a normal- or midsized one. Roughly the same physical size as a Primus 1020. It fits snugly in my hand. (which is a normally sized one )
Hello Kristian123, The 229 is a compact lantern, our Scout group, and other local troops as well, uses them. At our last group camp they worked well for an hour or two then needed pumping. Another leader said their group had done a trip up North (Northern B.C.) in negative Celsius temperatures and they hadn't been able to pump them - the rubber pump cup had shrunk with the cold....the change over to the old style leather pump cups from the spares kit, soon had them working again. As Mackburner says...they're not up to the original quality of the older stuff but they work well. Hope this is helpful Regards ThosKiwi
Thanks for all the grate suggestions! I think that I will buy the 226 since a local dealer has that model. Yet tho, I have three questions about that model. 1. Is it really 80w? 2. Do I have to pump every 20 minute? 3. Where can I obtain the leather pump? Gonna go camping in very cold climate so gotta have that.
Experienced light output is of course a very subjective thing, but I don't think the 226 is as bright as an 80W lightbulb (I assume it was a regular lightbulb you were referring to). The 40W Al mentioned above sounds more likely. You will have to pump it quite often. That's just the law of physics when you have a tank this small, meaning a very small amount of air to compress. Every 20th minute sounds plausible atleast in the beginning when the tank is full of fuel. I'm not so sure you'll need the leather pump. I have had mine out in very cold wether, and it hasn't been any problems. Atleast not with the pumping. On the other hand, I might have started it indoors, so if someone has experienced this problem, you perhaps need to take it seriously. Some other things! Don't expect it to be a silent lantern because of it's size. It's not like the older 100 cp lamps which almost whispers. This one makes a relatively high sound in my opinion. And the light on mine aren't absolutely flicker free when running on high, if that is a problem. It isn't for me. But if I dim it slightly, it will run smooth and even, though. (the light on these are variable to some extent.)
Kristian, If you going to use a lantern which uses flammable fuel under pressure you MUST know what you are doing. If you are using it in a cold environment you must know how it operates. From your questions I do taste some "not much experience". 1) 80W ? Good sales point.. Nobody measures it. 2) depends on temperature and/or amount of fuel in tank. 3) there is no leather pump ! Only a leather "pump cup". So like a bicycle pump the part that seals in the tube.
Hello again Kristian123 1) As Christer says its probably not equivalent to 80W incandesant, definitely less. Still bright enough to camp, cook and read by. 2) I still think pumping every hour is more realistic, but again, its dependent on the ambient temperature and barometric pressure. This flaw has additional benefit of helping keep your hands warm as well! 3) Check with your dealer if he carries the leather pump cups, Coleman USA/Canada still manufactures them because of the rubber/neoprene poor low temperature performance. Is there only one Coleman dealer/outlet selling coleman stoves or lanterns in Oslo? Remember the same size pump is used in the white fuel stoves, as well as, virtually all the lanterns! N.B. Buy plenty of spare mantles and any other spare additional parts such as a globe and generator and see if the dealer will do a reasonable discount, as you're purchasing more than the lantern. (If your budget allows) There were small padded cases available to protect these lanterns during backpacking, I believe. Or perhaps one might be able to find a round tin, tall enough to contain the lantern wrapped/rolled in a towel/cloth with slots under the latched lid for the bail to protrude and be a carry handle. There were cases like this produced for early lanterns like the 242 during the 30s & 40s. http://tgmarsh.faculty.noctrl.edu/lantern/coleuslant3145.html Note: It suggests carrying the lantern upside-down to extend the life of the mantle! A suitable diameter PVC pipe length with endcaps for example. or this;- http://www.rei.com/product/672041/coleman-exponent-lantern-case Regards ThosKiwi p.s. I know the last post is North America and not Norway but I just wanted to show you. Cheers T.L.
Thoskiwi- Yes, it seems like there is only one dealer which sells Coleman lanterns near Oslo. For some weird reason Norwegians dont like petrol fueled lanterns. The seller does neither sell spare parts Now it may seem like I am giving up on you guys. I have decided to go for the Primus Micron lantern instead. This I choose for the following reasons, weight, no need to pump, price, brighter light and the steel mesh is more resistant to external damage. http://www.primus.se/Templates/Pages/3_cols_white_middle.aspx?SectionId=5888 The only negative thing is that it suck to use gass in the cold, but then again, I will use the stove to heat up the gass before I light it up. Any how, thanks a lot for your help!
Hello Kristian The Primus Micron lantern is a great choice. And besides you're supporting Scandinavian industry. Cheers ThosKiwi
I see there are no pictures of this lamp on the reference gallery. Will post pictures when I get the lantern in the mail.
Kristian, one reason you don't find this lantern in the reference section might be because lpg (gas) lanterns are off topic. But you are welcome to post it in the open forum once you get it. I was close to buy one myself some years ago. They are neat and handy, no doubt about that.
