Hello All, I bought this lamp a while ago and know very little about it. It is painted in the German military colour and doesn't have a name or any marks, unless they are on the inside. From my limited research it looks similar to a Petromax 834, I think. Please assume you are dealing with a novice and any information would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Welcome on this form Novice @BrainlessBaz. So it looks like a Petromax type donut lamp 834 / 835. What information do you need, to re sell it, to make it work, why you bought it ? It does not have any military connecition due to paint. It looks repainted over black enamel. If you look inside there should be or could be a modell numer on the cast base plate.
Hello Wim, Thank you for your response. I looked again but I couldn't see a number. I was trying to pinpoint the age first, also, the possible military connection, if any. If the paint was added later, it seems odd to also add the swastika where it can't be seen. I know that was a symbol of good luck around the first world war. There is more to this but I didn't want to seem stupid but here goes. I normally buy things to sell on. I bought this, along with about another 30 lamps, railway etc and mostly different types. Apart from this one, they were all in good condition, with all of their glass faces or domes and whatever. At the next auction there were another 30-40 but this time the prices were too high for me. I questioned the auction owner and he confirmed they were all from a local collectors estate. This one has a fairly old typed label inside. I am not that naive as to presume it to be correct but I am I suppose trying to prove it to be incorrect. I appreciate the spelling is wrong but I can't see why a collector would add a label, when only he would see it. Or, if he tried to sell it, people like me would want some provenance. Thanks, Barry
Hi Barry, you are correct about the label, it made me laugh! Also the swastika which looks like it was painted with a (modern) paint marker is a joke. I saw photo's of a 1980s Coleman suitcase stove, painted and with German text stenciled on it et voilà, a genuine wartime wehrmacht stove! I'd advice you to remove the gray paint and see what is hidden underneath. As WimVe already mentioned you'll find some black enamel under most of it, the rest will be black paint. The lamp looks fairly complete, only missing its globe. Can you post some photo's of the underside so we can see if anything is missing there? Best regards, (the other) Wim
Hello (the other) Wim, I read about other artifacts that are almost legendary so I'm not too surprised just a little deflated. Did Adolf have a lamp? All the best, Barry
I think that just confirms my thoughts that I won't be lazing on a desert island any time soon. Thanks. Barry
So besides the things mentioned: - the label would burn up if it would be original. - the reflector is not marked. - you miss the pre-heater disc
Hello. I am using 834. -The window knob looks like an emblem of petromax. ・ Looking at this image, the size seems to be larger than 834. So isn't petromax835? ・ The number of windows in the marked part is 834, which is much smaller. Well, both should have the same structure.
Model 834 is 17.5 inches tall and 835 is 22.5 inches. I assume that is with the glass but there is enough difference there to probably determine which you have. This may help. ::Neil::
Hello Neil, Those details were very useful. It must be one of the larger two. I weighed 5 1/4 pints of water and that gets it to about 18.4 lbs, without a glass, and so it "must" be an 868. Although I may have to check my working out again later. Many thanks, Barry
Hello Wim, Unless I am looking in the wrong direction, it may have too much rust at the moment. I think I can see a 6 but not much else.
Hello Henry, I think it needs a bit of TLC before it could be "fired up" in anger again but thank you for that. Barry
TLC and money but still do-able. The profile of the tank and the weight 18.4 pounds suggests model 868 but when compared to the (catalogue) image posted by @Mackburner and examples posted in this section of the Lamp Reference Gallery, there's a mismatch. Henry.
@BrainlessBaz Ich denke, Sie haben eine Frankenlampe . . . . . . . . . . . aber vielleicht nicht. There are so many things which don't add up, not just the two fasteners on the reflector and the holes around the casing imediately above the reflector. Again, look at the images on the catalogue page and more practically, images posted in the reference gallery, you will see that the fuel feed from the tank is to the right of the lighting door, this is not the case with your lamp. Compare the following images, note orientation of the pump and relative position of things like lighting door, reflector hinge and fastener(s). Vapouriser, your lamp Petromax 835. This is the norm for Petromax hanging lamps including the 868 Jet and lower end of the mixing tube on a 868 (image saved from an ebay auction a long time ago) An 835 Your lamp Another image of an 868 saved from eBay As well as the vapouriser, I notice the filler cap on your lantern is also different but who's to say it is not original. These lamps were also available for petrol and benzene - not to be confused with benzin ! Werden die Lampen fur Benzin oder Benzol als Brennstoff gewunscht, so ist uns dies besonders aufzugeben. I don't speak German so have to rely on an online translator. This is what I get. If the lamps are desired as fuel for gasoline or benzene, this is something that we have to give up in particular. I take it that this means that such lamps are 'special order'; is this because they require more than just a jet with different sized orifice ? Henry.
As for the positions: it is possible that the lamp is put together the wrong way. I am pretty sure I have numbers on mine but I will have a look though.
I have no model designations for my lamps on the basic body Petromx 834/835/868a. see attached picture (Petromax 868a).
No! It’s much bigger, 192mm will fit. Glasglocke für Gas- und Petroleumlampen (192mm Durchmesser) - Gläser - Glaszylinder Pelam
