How to transport lantern without shutoff valve?

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How to transport old style Optimus lantern?

  1. drain the fuel, close the bleed air screw

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  2. leave fuel in fount, open the bleed air screw

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  1. kk1992 Germany

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    Hi all,



    next weekend I would like to take one of my pressure lanterns for a short camping trip.

    On a 'regular' petromax I would leave the fuel in the fount, close the bleed air screw, close the footvalve and just put it in the car, fixed in a upright direction.

    Now I would like to bring my Optimus lantern, which has the old style of vapourizer without a shutoff valve... :-k

    How would you transport the lantern?
    - Empty the fount, close bleed air screw
    - Keep fuel in the lantern, transport with open bleed air screw, hope that no fuel leaks during transport

    Any other ideas from the experts? :content:


    regards from germany,
    kk1992
     
  2. rayw United Kingdom

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    I recently bought a lamp which was shipped to me by mail, when it arrived the post people had sealed it in a plastic bag because it was weeping paraffin and the box was soaked, I don't think they were very happy.
    The bleed screw was open and obviously it had been left on it's side.
    On camping trips I used to put mine somewhere warm or in the sun for a while then tighten pump and put it in its box , if you take one from a cold room and put it somewhere warm then the expansion will help find any potential leak path.
     
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    1. Carefully....
    2. Empty....

    Alec :lol:
     
  4. ColinG United Kingdom

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    If it's being shipped or posted, it should be completely drained and wrapped in a plastic bag for extra safety before being well packaged with the globe taken out to be packed separately. If you're taking it somewhere (assuming it's a Tilley or Bialaddin style lantern, either drain the fuel and pack it with lots of bubble wrap. If you don't want the hassle, use plenty of (unwanted) pillows and a duvet and keep it upright when being transported. Remember to open the fuel cap a little and leave the pricker mechanism in the open position. A Tilley left with the fuel cap/pump closed will slowly pressurize as the temperature changes around it and kero will leak out of the vaporiser.

    I inadvertently left a Tilley on top of my hi-fi amp (with the filler cap closed) and had to spend days if not weeks cleaning it out very laboriously. The smell took a few months to finally dissipate as my wife reminds me now and then!
     
  5. kk1992 Germany

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    Alright, the consensus seems to be to drain the fount. Better safe than sorry I guess. ;)

    I found an old cardboard box that fits perfectly.
    The fount is empty, the pricker is down and the bleed air screw is open.

    Package for the weekend:
    - 1 litre of fuel
    - priming bottle
    - top reflector
    - two spare mantles
    - lighter
    - fuel funnel
    - metal chain with to carabiner shackles
    plus an adjustable wrench.

    Am I missing something? This should be enough to keep the lantern running for the long weekend.
    optimus_paket.jpeg


    - kk1992
     
  6. WimVe

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    Well I always transport them with or without fuel, doesn't make a difference but always with the air release screw open.
    Due to temperature or even air pressure fuel will come out of the vaporizer if closed.
     
  7. Fireexit1 United Kingdom

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    I have done both - but for a road trip I think I would empty it. Terrible smell to get out of the carpet in your car !
     
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    That doesn't sound enough to me for a long weekend.
     
  9. kk1992 Germany

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    Update:
    Over 400km across the autobahn, used on 3 evenings. Even the mantle survived. :thumbup:

    One litre was more than enough, I run the lantern on a very low pressure with a 150cp jet on alkylate petrol/gasoline (swiss petromax gasoline vaporizer fits on the optimus 200p with some fettling). ;)
     
  10. JonD

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    Running gasoline with no foot valve? :shock:
     
  11. kk1992 Germany

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    Yes, I know it's unsafe, I use a little piece of sheet metal between the bleed screw and the lantern to direct the flammable gas away from the flame.

    To be honest, I always shut off my petromax style lanterns by releasing the pressure, no matter what fuel I use.



    Disclaimer:
    Don't run gasoline in any petromax style lantern. I would never recommend this practise to anyone.
     
  12. kk1992 Germany

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    Sorry for the 'double post', but FYI @JonD :
    The HASAG / MEWA 351 has no shutoff valve and is designated as a gasoline lantern. I don't own one, but I thought you find that interesting.

    Unfortunatly I don't have an english source, but here is a german description, even mentioning the inherent danger of using gasoline/petrol without shutoff valve.
    Lampenmaxe | Mewa 351L

    Maybe germans are just crazy :-k

    - kk1992
     

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