Petromax 829 a new find

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  1. Migwar Lebanon

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    Hello everyone,

    A new find, a Petromax 829, seems in a good condition. Expecting to recieve it in couple of days. Seems original and needs a little of fettling. The head cover includes a crack.

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    This one looks genuine versus the one shared earlier under the link below:

    Petromax unfired

    Thank you,
    Migwar
     
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  2. Dashwood United States

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    Things to note:

    6 digit date code instead of 4
    11 points on the star instead of 10
    Rounded flare on the bottom edge of the fount vs sharper stepped.
    Blue fuel control knob vs brown or black
    "Germany" instead of "Made in Germany" stamped on the fount.

    All telltale signs that this is a late post Altena/Graetz petromax clone.

    EDITED: uploaded photos of what features a real German petromax should have.

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  3. Migwar Lebanon

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    Thank you so much, @Dashwood for the details, I knew about another Petramox model previousely and find out it was a clone also. With time here, I'm getting experience. That red hat blured my eyes, this time.
    I'll try to light it this weekend to see if it can at least equate with old clones (Anchor, for example). Then I'll be pleased with the outcome.

    Knowing that it is produced by the same company, it will no longer be deemed a Petromax to me. I've learned more about these, and I'll consider the differences from now on.

    Thanks,
    Migwar
     
  4. Dashwood United States

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    Just keep your eyes peeled! You'll find one soon enough. It took me a while and I too was in the same spot making the same mistake.

    Example I shown above was actually an acquisition I made this week so it's not impossible. Hopefully this info will help you in your search. :mrgreen:

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  5. Migwar Lebanon

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    Thank you for sharing.

    In fact, I did locate an original earlier, but I didn't know the difference until recently.

    Thanks,
    Migwar
     
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    Nevertheless, the glass globe is still genuine, @Migwar .
    If you observe the stamping details, you should be able to see that they are very crudely made. The depth of the stamped details, i.e., the words, the patterns, etc are irregular, indicating inferior toolings and machineries used in the manufacture.
    The geometrics, steps, curves and ribs of the frame/cage/collar are also very different and not as well-defined as a genuine Petromax from Germany. It is an early China-made copy of the Petromax. It is also not the modern unit registered under Pelam, which would have the 'P' in the logo instead of the 'G'.
    However, if there are no leaks or faulty parts, it might still work near as good as a genuine item if you are able to fettle it up to shape.
     
  7. Dashwood United States

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    One thing I can say we can agree on among petromax owner, genuine and clones. Always check the J-tube clamp before firing! :shock:
     
  8. Migwar Lebanon

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    Thank you @MYN , it is well noted. Thank you @Dashwood if I well understood, the J-tube is in the upper part which leads to the mantle?
     
  9. Dashwood United States

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    Yes, regardless of tooling and origin, always make sure the clamp is on tight. They will eventually work themselves loose from each heat cycle that they'll slip and drop, upsetting the air and fuel ratio resulting in massive overflaming and wrecking the burner cap and mantle.
     
  10. Migwar Lebanon

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    Well noted @Dashwood thank you very much
     

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