Lilor table lamp

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  1. pete sav

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    Here is a very ornate lilor table lamp i think the burner is a Bec Lor but please correct me if i am wrong must be 1920s i think.
    Not my lamp just fettling for my friend anyway lots to fix and burner nozzle and tube was missing but i had one i could copy so it was possible.
    Any way once repairs done it fired up like a good un.
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    OMG Pete, thought these could never look more ornate than the last one you posted but I was wrong!
     
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    The last one was Michels jean i thought that was fancy but the work and details on this one must have been very expensive to produce
    Cheers pete
     
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    A beautiful piece, well deserved to be working again.
     
  5. Michel

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    beautifull Lilor n° 4197 with Lor burner :lol:
     
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    @pete sav
    Great work Pete. You made the burner nozzle you say? I need to make one for a project (not a Lilor). Could you describe how you went about it? Those holes look very regularly spaced - indexing head on your lathe?

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    John
     
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    Hi john
    Yes i had to make a burner nozzle and tube from brass bar from scratch.
    First i drilled a hole in the inside of the nozzle then bored it out with a boring bar so i had a nice flat bottomed hole.
    Parted it off to lengh and reversed it in the chuck.
    I dont have a proper indexing unit for the lathe just a home made affair and i use a 60tooth circular saw blade for my index plate so each tooth is 6 degrees right so i put a hole every 4 teeth so it gave me 15 holes round the outer circle of holes in the nozzle. Needed 10 holes on next cicle of holes so thats every 6 teeth.
    Drilled the holes off the toolpost with a 18v drill mounted on it.
    I can take pictures of it all if you want to see the setup but be tomorrow now.
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    Cheers pete

    The original nozzle had 1.75mm holes but i didnot have a drill that size only 2mm. So i used that till i did the central 6 holes on the nozzle.
    If you look at the flame shot in the first picture you can see 1mm holes gives a longer flame in the centre because of the smaller holes intresting
    Pete
     
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    A grand old lamp indeed!:thumbup::thumbup:
     
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    @pete sav
    No need to take photos of the drilling rig Pete, you’ve described it perfectly and I can visualise the set-up. Ingenious, not least your judgement to compensate for the slightly larger drill with some 1mm holes in the centre zone - a perfect solution looking at the end result in illuminating the mantle.

    Superb.

    John
     
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    Splendid restoration - your friend is a very lucky person indeed..
     
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    Excellent work Pete - well done sir!
     
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    The French made lamp making a art
     
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    Beautiful work on a beautiful lamp, Pete.

    Cheers

    Tony
     
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    I am impressed by the beauty of this lamp, and the work you did to make it work.
    Greetings
    Stanisław
     
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    I wonder if the "embellishments" were done in the factory or by craftmen buying "plain" lamps and working on them ?
     
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    For me, the "embellishments" must have been done before the making, on a special decorated square tube.
    It would be impossible to do another way
    I think the lamps were proposed with such a decoration, as an more expensive option.
    You can see another decorated lamp (lilor n° 1931) here : https://www.lampepression.com/copie-de-france-liotard
     
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    Remarkable lamp and great work :thumbup::thumbup:

    also the town gas indoor lamps were sometimes decorated/stamped/rolled so perhaps it was easier then to obtain such parts?
    That ‘Greek key’ motif is very distinctive.. Still a great deal of shaping and making to make everything work though..
    The repousse work on the fount alone is wonderful :clap:

    there is an earlier thread that shows some paperwork of the glass or very similar

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    thanks to lampenkueche
     
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    @podbros the shade bottom left looks the same to me
    Cheers pete
     
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    And it is certainly a luxury model, because it is the first time I see a barrel entirely decorated with a "Greek"; these Greeks are generally seen on ancient bas-reliefs
     

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