Hugo Schneider HS No2 spirit lamp

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  1. Knee Poland

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    IMG_20250510_221755915.jpg This is a wick lamp powered by spirit so I'm posting this in the open section.
    This is a Hugo Schneider HS No2 burner, which was manufactured so that it could be attached to another tank.
    In this case, it is an Ehrich & Graetz brand kerosene lamp tank, adapted to work by previous owner with the Hugo Schneider burner.
    The filler cap features a beautiful early E&G logo (I couldn't find information about Triumph anywhere) IMG_20250510_221140371.jpg
    IMG_20250510_221105308~2.jpg As for the HS No2 burner. Manufactured in the early years of the 20th century. I found on the Internet a photo from another forum (hytta.de) I'm not sure if I can post this photo here, but I'll take my chances. If it's a violation of any rules, please feel free to remove it.
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    This is a richer version equipped with a pump so that you can draw spirit from the tank to heat the burner.
    IMG_20250510_221013928.jpg IMG_20250503_174822877.jpg Clever, simple design, prevents the spirit from igniting. Only by moving the lever (open flow) does the round wicket open allowing the match to be accessed.
    Closed. Cannot be set on fire.
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    And open. Now we can light
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    I had a lot of problems with the glow mantle.
    I saw on Mr. Erik Leger's website that there are special rigid mantles for this type of burner, but in our country it is difficult to get them.
    Some were wrinkling ugly after firing. I cut a disc off the ceramic fuse and planted it on the rod, creating a sort of shelf to which I tied the mantle.
    IMG_20250218_212930457.jpg IMG_20250217_172316102.jpg Thanks to @Piotrek for some mantles.:thumbup:

    I will still mention the wick.
    In this burner it was quite well preserved, but in the version without a pump, which is still waiting to be completed, I had to replace the wick.
    Old, heavily used wick.
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    I had to pack the fibers very densely and tightly in the brass tube , then one part curled up and the top additionally banded with a flat wick.It takes a lot of effort to push it to the burner.
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    I couldn't find a simple glass cylinder so I used one with a belly.
    While cleaning the burner, I was able to learn some technical details.
    View of the nozzle and gas flow control.


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    Burner test.

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    And it finally shines. It's not a particularly strong light, but it's a pleasant, mood-making one.
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    Sorry for such a long post, but if anyone wanted to read it, thank you for your attention.
    Greetings
    Stanislaw IMG_20250510_165419731.jpg
     
  2. JEFF JOHNSON

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    It's working well.:thumbup:
     
  3. Sellig33

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    Nice restauration, you use coton wick ?
    It's the same principle as for Tito Landi lamps.
    Thanks for sharing

    Gilles
     
  4. Knee Poland

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    Thanks Jeff.
    Thanks Gilles.
    Yes, I used a cotton wick.
     
  5. Conny C

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    Hi Stanislaw,

    Nice job on that HS 2 burner. The HS alcohol burners comes from early patents from 1903
    and there are two companies involved. "Hugo Schneider AG"/Leipzig got a French patent for an alcohol burner
    and at the same time "Beleuctung und Heizung"/Leipzig got a Brittish patent for more or less the same burner.
    In 1903 the German company "Centrale für Spiritus-Verwerthung"/Berlin launch an alcohol burner "Amor".
    Later 1904 Hugo Schneider puts the "Autor-Brenner" on the market followed by the HS Brenner 1906. A couple
    of years later the burners had been equipped with a pre heater pump and now the Amor-Brenner returns as a
    Hugo Schneider burner and also HS Nr. 1 and 2 with or without pump are launched.

    /Conny

    Amor and HS burner patents.jpg HS und Amor  Brenner.jpg (Ads courtesy of Jörg Wekenmann)
     
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  6. Knee Poland

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    Hi Conny.
    Thank you very much for this detailed information and documents.
    Very much appreciated!

    With best regards.
    Stanislaw.
     
  7. Piotrek

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    @Knee I am glad to helped you with this interesting project. Anytime :lol: I really enjoy watching you overcoming all technical problems with your inventions and manual skills :clap: That reminds me of Polish attitude from the past, when nothing was available, but everything had to be done anyway :content:
    all the best,
    Piotrek
     
  8. Knee Poland

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    Hi @Piotrek.
    Thanks for the kind words.
    I think I have something left from those crisis times.:)
    Greetings
    Stanisław
     
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    Hello Knee,

    I'm responding to your alcohol burner.
    You have a very interesting burner here; alcohol was often used during strategic periods.
    You've done a beautiful restoration here with an interesting system of your own invention for converting a flexible mantle into a straight mantle.
    In addition to Yorg's documents provided by Conny, I'm attaching some images of two HS No. 2 burners on the left, two HS No. 1 burners on the right, and a large HS "Amor" burner in the center. It has a small cap with a chain to fill the reservoir without disassembling it.
    The ones in my collection all work wonderfully.
    In my opinion, the alcohol consumption is quite high, as is the case with all alcohol burners.

    Have a lot of fun with your burner.

    Regards,
    Titoo.

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    My Tropic Special has a similar style of cotton wick to help get the paraffin up from the bottom of the tank when it's getting close to empty. :-k

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    @Titoo . Hi. Thank you very much for your comment and all the information.
    Your collection of HS burners is outstanding!
    I didn't realize there was such a number of these burners and such a difference in size.
    Amor is powerful!
    Of course, I am happy with my burner.
    I made a short video.
    https://youtube.com/shorts/vRo_a7ZiGx4?feature=shared
    Greetings
    Stanisław
     
  12. Richard of Bath United Kingdom

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    Hi Knee, I am very impressed with your post and hope that you may be able to guide me.
    Do you know if there is anywhere that I might find a replacement for this burner or better still the same one?
    Is has some damage as you can see and it has been converted to electricity so no wick.
    I am fairly sure the ring which supports the glass is not original.
    Failing that, do you know if there is anyone who could restore it ?
     

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  13. Martin K.

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    This is certainly not the remnant of a HS burner, as the wick wheel shows. I would assume that these are the remains of a Kosmos burner, as suggested by the inverted wick tube. If you are in search of the original manufacturer of that burner just try this site for identification by the wick wheel.
    There is another site with wick wheels that is no longer active, but can be found in the internet archive: Wayback Machine
    Another site has been saved as PDF and can be seen here.
     
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  14. Knee Poland

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    Hi @Richard of Bath .
    A more experienced colleague above is right. (Thanks @Martin K. for the link to the excellent website about different types of burners.:thumbup:)
    Your burner is indeed a wick burner. The lower, conical element helps to form a flat wick, which emerges at the top in the shape of a circle between two sleeves.
    It looks like someone removed part of the upper element to attach the bulb holder. Recreating this could be tricky.
    As for the HS burner, here in Poland they appear from time to time (rarely) on auction sites, as is the case now Lampa gazowa góra część Wrocław Śródmieście • OLX.pl, but usually important parts are missing, which are beyond the reach of a small DIY enthusiast like me.
    Greetings
    Stanislaw
     

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